Indeed he was, but I think a few have somewhat rose tinted glasses on here. Muggleton was good, but at the end of the day, he was only here for a couple of seasons Max (did he play for more than just the 84/85 season?). IMO in the time I have watched Hull FC (since 1981) the 2nd rowers I would highlight would be Lee Crooks, Mick Crane (when not playing LF), Ellis, Willie Manu, and Mini.

Manu would be on my bench with the 2 props and either ellis or muggleton. to be honest, and its a bit controversial, but never liked it when we had crane and norton in the same starting team. both great players, but its a question of balance i guess.

King Ellis. Up there with the best ever to adorn the famous irregular hoops. A sporting great in an age for our sport where there are few

Certainly mentioned out here by pundits as one of the best ever players to have played after coming from the ERL. Rated in the Top 5 or 6 by some.

In the forwards he would be in my top 3. Mal Reilly for me is No1.

Grimaldi, Kearney lots of great players way ahead of cuckoo Harrison who caused disruption with the young players

Whitely at LF, in fact I'd have Crane in front of Norton too. Here are the 2015 threads for the GOAT team FB - retro.rlfans.com/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=577241 no.3&4 - retro.rlfans.com/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=578250 no. 2&5 - viewtopic.php?f=34&t=577617 No.6 viewtopic.php?f=34&t=579179 no.7 viewtopic.php?f=34&t=579838 No.9 - retro.rlfans.com/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=581524 Props - retro.rlfans.com/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=580344 2nd row - viewtopic.php?f=34&t=582433 no.13 - retro.rlfans.com/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=583282

Whitely at LF, in fact I'd have Crane in front of Norton too. Here are the 2015 threads for the GOAT team FB - retro.rlfans.com/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=577241 no.3&4 - retro.rlfans.com/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=578250 no. 2&5 - viewtopic.php?f=34&t=577617 No.6 viewtopic.php?f=34&t=579179 no.7 viewtopic.php?f=34&t=579838 No.9 - retro.rlfans.com/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=581524 Props - retro.rlfans.com/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=580344 2nd row - viewtopic.php?f=34&t=582433 no.13 - retro.rlfans.com/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=583282

Possibly only Ellis would get in my all time fc team but like people say its the eras we watched....i started going in 1975 and seen the game evolve.Bizarrely the best fullback I saw was Wade McKinnon..he was sheer class but wasn't here long enough,same as Sterling...best player I have ever seen for 1 season,overall best player..Knocker.Swain over Houghton any time,both 80mins players but Swain had a better all rd game.