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| Hang 'em High!
Totally wrong and robbing the club unnecessarily.
However, it's been going on for years. From when I started going in the 70's, you always used to see some blokes sheppardingly their kids in through the turnstile and slipping the operator something for their trouble. So both the supporter and operator were robbing the club at the same time.
Also used to go to City at Boothferry Park and see 18 year olds trying to kid their way through that they were U14. They'd often get found out that when they couldn't quite make up their Date of Birth.
Worst case I've seen was also at Boothferry Park, was when three lads (one used to go to our school), used to take it in turns to sit in a wheel chair each game, while the other two pushed them round to DIY disabled shelter they'd put up in front of the SE terrace. By the end of the season most of the South Stand had clocked on to it and it became part of the pre-match entertainment. No light shows in those days!
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| nothing new im afraid, ive known friends who have purchased child tickets instead of adults when leeds introduced the same ticket entry system, once they twigged, they made sure that most away tickets were/are checked
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| Quote: The Dentist Wilf "No perhaps its not I agree, but doing the other things you cite although not right and in fact illegal, hardly hurt Hull FC do they? The relationship between a Club and its devoted fans is a little different to that between an owner of a TV and Sky TV. Yeh the stuff you quote hurts musicians starving artists, the RL and TV company's but in this case for a lot of people its not the legal principle of what has been done, so much as the fact that fans are doing it to swindle their Club, the team they support, who need the cash and expect people who support them to play the game, while the rest of their fellow fans stump up to support their team. Its almost I guess a matter of honour really! Just my thoughts and I am an old b*gger!'"
Sir i applaud your morals regarding your club but even though you try and justify it on a level of who needs money more your argument is still flawed. People download music illegally, taking money from artists, bands, producers, companies etc in the process because they can. It can be done.
My computer has all the best and latest spyware, registry cleaners and driver boosters etc on it. I haven't paid a penny for them, i downloaded them and downloaded illegal serial keys to work them thus taking money out of the pockets of the makers and sponsors.... because i can and it can be done.
People opt to stream sky on their computer taking money away from every sports club they show. I am currently watching Liverpool v Man City in HD on my skybox that cost me £16 subscription for a year on a signal i take from Ireland on a scrambled I.P. Why?..... because i can and it can be done.
I sometimes go to the hot deli counter at the supermarket, buy a couple of sausages or something, eat them on the way round and kick the packaging under the shelving units so i don't need to pay the £2 or £3 it would have cost me extra. Yep you guessed it, because i can and it can be done.
If i need something new that i can get from work and it would only cost 50p in a shop i will still nick it from work.
Conclusion :- If somebody can get away with saving a few quid, even if it is un-moral they will do it. Sports clubs are a lot wealthier than somebody on £15,000 or so a year and can take the hit better. Robin Hood wasn't a million miles off. If people can get away with it they will do. It's up to the firms, companies, sports clubs to find a way of stopping it.
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| Quote: Cherry_Warrior "Sir i applaud your morals regarding your club but even though you try and justify it on a level of who needs money more your argument is still flawed. People download music illegally, taking money from artists, bands, producers, companies etc in the process because they can. It can be done.
My computer has all the best and latest spyware, registry cleaners and driver boosters etc on it. I haven't paid a penny for them, i downloaded them and downloaded illegal serial keys to work them thus taking money out of the pockets of the makers and sponsors.... because i can and it can be done.
People opt to stream sky on their computer taking money away from every sports club they show. I am currently watching Liverpool v Man City in HD on my skybox that cost me £16 subscription for a year on a signal i take from Ireland on a scrambled I.P. Why?..... because i can and it can be done.
I sometimes go to the hot deli counter at the supermarket, buy a couple of sausages or something, eat them on the way round and kick the packaging under the shelving units so i don't need to pay the £2 or £3 it would have cost me extra. Yep you guessed it, because i can and it can be done.
If i need something new that i can get from work and it would only cost 50p in a shop i will still nick it from work.
Conclusion
.... first time I've seen anyone so proud to admit that they are a thief.
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| Quote: ccs ".... first time I've seen anyone so proud to admit that they are a thief.'"
That's kind of the point. It's hardly bank robbing is it. Which is what this thread is about.
I bet at least 50% of people on this thread have done or do one of the above. It all depends on your take on it. I would never go into a shop and put something in my pocket etc trying to evade cameras and guards. I work i pay bills, i pay for my shopping, clothes and so on. What i am saying is people will push what they can get away with. Everybody does it or has done, morals or no morals and anybody that says they haven't done anything similar is a liar. I can't afford a sky subscription and the best software for my media devices so i use tools that millions of others do. You might think i am Al Capone but to me i am just taking what i can from rich companies. Little victories.
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| RL as a whole has being devaluing itself for years, gieaway tickets for internationals just the tip of the iceberg. Just look at the ridiculous zero money SL main sponsor contract with Stobart's.
We've not had a headline sponsor in years and the money is pathetic.
The season passes are still cheap IMO and I'd pay more than I do currently for a seat though the reduction due to being a member offsets its cost a little.
People defrauding the club by whatever the amount is still fraud and despicable and trying to pass it off as the same as watching youtube footage of a sky game from years back is ridiculous.
I for one have never downloaded illegally uploaded music or films or bought hooky dvds.
That the film and music industry had to change because of the ridiculous prices being charged hence why a lot of people bought knock offs shows it was overpriced.
Tickets into Hull FC or any rugby league event for that matter are not and thus to rob money from your own local club that isn't some multi billion pound organisation that can absorb it so easily makes ticket fraud much worse.
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| Quote: ccs ".... first time I've seen anyone so proud to admit that they are a thief.'"
Be interesting to know if he's pinched a ticket for Friday's game.
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| would be interesting for the club to release some figures on how many were caught and how much revenue was lost from it.
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| Quote: Cherry_Warrior "Sir i applaud your morals regarding your club but even though you try and justify it on a level of who needs money more your argument is still flawed. People download music illegally, taking money from artists, bands, producers, companies etc in the process because they can. It can be done.
My computer has all the best and latest spyware, registry cleaners and driver boosters etc on it. I haven't paid a penny for them, i downloaded them and downloaded illegal serial keys to work them thus taking money out of the pockets of the makers and sponsors.... because i can and it can be done.
People opt to stream sky on their computer taking money away from every sports club they show. I am currently watching Liverpool v Man City in HD on my skybox that cost me £16 subscription for a year on a signal i take from Ireland on a scrambled I.P. Why?..... because i can and it can be done.
I sometimes go to the hot deli counter at the supermarket, buy a couple of sausages or something, eat them on the way round and kick the packaging under the shelving units so i don't need to pay the £2 or £3 it would have cost me extra. Yep you guessed it, because i can and it can be done.
If i need something new that i can get from work and it would only cost 50p in a shop i will still nick it from work.
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Wow!!!
So if you pop into your back garden, I can sneak into your house, fill my van up with all of your posessions and leave? Why not?? Its up to you to find ways to stop me!
Its people like you that ruin it for everyone else. Everyone else at the supermarket is paying for your cheeky little sausage snack. Cant you understand that? Imagine if every customer stole a couple of items every time they went shopping.
You say you work, which somehow in your head validates what your doing. It really doesnt. Just because you can, doesnt mean you should!!
Jesus Christ, that really is one of the most frustrating and idiotic posts ive ever read!!! And thats on a forum where some people think the world is flat!!
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| Quote: Cherry_Warrior "Sir i applaud your morals regarding your club but even though you try and justify it on a level of who needs money more your argument is still flawed. People download music illegally, taking money from artists, bands, producers, companies etc in the process because they can. It can be done.
My computer has all the best and latest spyware, registry cleaners and driver boosters etc on it. I haven't paid a penny for them, i downloaded them and downloaded illegal serial keys to work them thus taking money out of the pockets of the makers and sponsors.... because i can and it can be done.
People opt to stream sky on their computer taking money away from every sports club they show. I am currently watching Liverpool v Man City in HD on my skybox that cost me £16 subscription for a year on a signal i take from Ireland on a scrambled I.P. Why?..... because i can and it can be done.
I sometimes go to the hot deli counter at the supermarket, buy a couple of sausages or something, eat them on the way round and kick the packaging under the shelving units so i don't need to pay the £2 or £3 it would have cost me extra. Yep you guessed it, because i can and it can be done.
If i need something new that i can get from work and it would only cost 50p in a shop i will still nick it from work.
Conclusion Sports clubs are a lot wealthier than somebody on £15,000 or so a year and can take the hit better. Robin Hood wasn't a million miles off. If people can get away with it they will do. It's up to the firms, companies, sports clubs to find a way of stopping it.'"
On FOUR occasions you have admitted either fraud or theft.
You are the scum of society.
Oh, and how do you work out that sports clubs (RL in particular) are wealthier than anyone when the vast majority will lose money?
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| Glad to see I have drummed up so much interest
For the record, I have a season ticket, A full subscription to virgin media (internet and tv) I don't eat sausages as I am a body builder and there is nothing in my place of work for me to 'nick' as I have my own office.
I do however download music and films illegally, might as well shoot me by firing squad.
EDIT :- I wrote this on works time, I am such a renegade
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| Some of this is for me quite unbelievable. I was just trying to make the point that after your family and close friends the last organisation that you should be defrauding is the Club that you love! I see what you are saying, different folks have different ethical codes and your post certainly gave me some food for thought, however that doesn't mean that I'm off to Morrison's for some free sausages for my dinner!!
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| Quote: Cherry_Warrior "Glad to see I have drummed up so much interest
A liar as well then.
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| Quote: Cherry_Warrior "Glad to see I have drummed up so much interest
So you steal sausages and eat them, but you dont eat them?
Have I missed something?
Good job you're a bodybuilder with your own office (lol) otherwise i'd think you're a bit of a fibber
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| Quote: supersuperfc "So you steal sausages and eat them, but you dont eat them?
Have I missed something?
Good job you're a bodybuilder with your own office (lol) otherwise i'd think you're a bit of a fibber'"
Obviously our bodybuilding chum(p) has been enjoying some dodgy steroids. Is he not aware of the medical help that's available to him.
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