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| Quote *1865*="*1865*"Regarding the 2x 6th place finishes and a CC final. Maybe that's as good as it would ever be in Pearson's mind and we needed to start from scratch again in order to truly progress?'"
Possibly. If that was the case though I think he may have jumped the gun a bit. He was happy enough a year earlier to give Gentle a contract extension.
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| Quote Doc Brown="Doc Brown"Possibly. If that was the case though I think he may have jumped the gun a bit. He was happy enough a year earlier to give Gentle a contract extension.'"
Was that another piece of advice from McRae though? He seemed to suddenly change his mind about it all and completely change direction. Think he became aware of things happening such as the Shaul situation and the McDonnell episode, as well as realising that certain players weren't worth the money they were being paid.
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| Quote weaver93="weaver93"Classic case of apportioning blame, to someone who isnt around anymore.
Even IF Gentle refuted the claims, he probably couldn't, he probably signed a confidentiality agreement.'"
It's the old politicians thing isnt it? new govt comes in and spends the next 5 years blaming the old one for everything. comes a time whem you have to stop blaming the previous regime and front up yourself
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| Quote Doc Brown="Doc Brown"Hang on that makes no sense to me. Lynch was still with us until the end of the 2013 season and Miller joined us halfway through that season.'"
I agree its another piece of bull crap from Pearson
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| Quote Dave K.="Dave K."It is starting to seem that way, I'm not saying that Gentle and McRae didn't make recruitment errors, but for all the errors they still got us to 6th place twice and a CC final.'"
Quote Dave K.="weaver93"Classic case of apportioning blame, to someone who isnt around anymore.
Even IF Gentle refuted the claims, he probably couldn't, he probably signed a confidentiality agreement.'"
I said last year that history is written by those presently in power, and I've long been uncomfortable with how much blame Pearson seems to want to apportion to those not around any longer. The longer our malaise continues, the harder I find it to accept, too.
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| Quote *1865*="*1865*"Was that another piece of advice from McRae though? He seemed to suddenly change his mind about it all and completely change direction. Think he became aware of things happening such as the Shaul situation and the McDonnell episode, as well as realising that certain players weren't worth the money they were being paid.'"
What exactly happened with Shaul/McDonnell? I know that Shaul wasn't getting a game at one point because McDonnell was first choice but isn't that the coach's decision? McDonnell wasn't a bad player IMO.
Wouldn't the contracts be McRae's responsibility as Director of Rugby (was that his role?) though and not Gentle's? I was under the impression player contracts were down to McRae.
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| What I want to know is who are the certain people at the club letting Radford down.
It cant be players as there is currently no one on the naughty list and frozen out like Ben Crooks last season.
Does he think Ellis and Sa are letting him down because of their regular injuries? Radford did seem to be really peed off with Sa in one of his interviews following the latest injury to Sa.
Does anyone know what Pearson is talking about?
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| Quote *1865*="*1865*"Regarding the 2x 6th place finishes and a CC final. Maybe that's as good as it would ever be in Pearson's mind and we needed to start from scratch again in order to truly progress?'"
Maybe. Personally, I'd have been inclined to reward 2 6th places with another year to see. Also, given that he claims he made the decision around July time, I do wonder how following up 6th with being on course for similar and the addition of the CC semi-finals at least convinced him we would never do any better, yet living in the bottom 4 for the next season and a quarter and managing back-to-back results a whopping once has him keeping the faith that we're on the right track.
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| Quote carl_spackler="carl_spackler"Maybe. Personally, I'd have been inclined to reward 2 6th places with another year to see. Also, given that he claims he made the decision around July time, I do wonder how following up 6th with being on course for similar and the addition of the CC semi-finals at least convinced him we would never do any better, yet living in the bottom 4 for the next season and a quarter and managing back-to-back results a whopping once has him keeping the faith that we're on the right track.'"
like Adam Pearson but he is deluded in thinking Radford is the man to take the club forward.
It will all come tumbling down if we get stuffed on Thursday.
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| Quote bonaire="bonaire"
It will all come tumbling down if we get stuffed on Thursday.'"
Just as well we are going to beat them then.
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| Quote *1865*="*1865*"Was that another piece of advice from McRae though? He seemed to suddenly change his mind about it all and completely change direction. Think he became aware of things happening such as the Shaul situation and the McDonnell episode, as well as =#0000FFrealising that certain players weren't worth the money they were being paid.'"
I still think he should have been much more wise to this during the event rather than after, if it is to the extent that he seems to suggest. He still had his own wage bill available to consult as a guideline. The one that sticks out to me is Arundel. Regardless of how much Pearson does or doesn't know about RL, if Arundel was given a contract considerably more expensive than Yeaman, Pearson should have been savvy enough to seriously question it. One was a player in his prime years, with England and GB caps to his name, the other was up and coming but had only got as far as the England Knights, and also coming off the back of a major knee injury. For comparison, it would be similar to Liverpool offering Will Hughes more money than they're paying Lallana or Henderson, if Hughes had also been out injured for the past 18 months.
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| it may not be players letting radford down on purpose just occasional dumb plays .Against cas luke gale scored a try as one of our forwards (no names) run with his back to the play.there was the dumb play against catalan just on half time. Dumb plays or inexperience but certainly no lack of effort
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