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Back onto Jamie Ellis.

I don't think many of our players covered themselves in glory during the 2nd half, fatigue, injuries and an inexperienced bench took its toll.

Don't think its fair to single out just Ellis, kick to touch aside he was no better or worse than a fair few of our players.
What will being dropped to the 20's achieve or do to his condence? Nothing I suspect and something Agar would do
His performance will be analyised no doubt by him and Gentle and the defficiences and errors identified and worked on.
He is a young kid still learning his trade in SL and it is no coincidence that his worst performance was in a severely tired and weakened side.
He is best kept in the 1st team in order to develop and improve imo as he'll only get better the more 1st team rugby he plays.

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More then happy with how Ellis is playing.

Great kicking game which will improve the more responsibility and experience he gets.

Gonna be a cracker.

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I think it's a lot more difficult for backs, especially halves, to get to grips with SL. A spell in the 20's would be ideal now he's had exposure, but it's not going to happen until Hornes fit, maybe then put Nicklas on the bench.

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TBF to Ellis it's hard enough for an experienced SL half to do well with the lack of towards we have at the moment I think the Easter perod on top of a serious lack of bodies just took it's toll. Can't fault any of them for effort or commitment but it looked like they reverted to playing on instinct rather than the game plan 2nd half.

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ellis will come good i think. All the ingredients are there. But we are missing Horne at min. Ellis's passing meant numerous promising attacks fell flat,or worse we turned over position. When horne back ellis will probably go back to 20s but he'll be better for his 1st team run and will have more time to fine tune his skills there n will get more opportunities along the line better equipped!

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Posters go on about bringing the youngsters in But today proved there are not ready for S/L .You can bring in one at a time and the team can carry that one but to many and the team loses that balance .To have a go at J Ellis is wrong the lad is still learning his trade ,he has been force into the first team because of injuries .Huddersfield are top of S/L who could rotate players last Monday they rested players I wish Hull could have done that I judge Hull on a full squad not a patch up team

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Quote: airliebird,runninglate! "ellis will come good i think. All the ingredients are there. But we are missing Horne at min. Ellis's passing meant numerous promising attacks fell flat,or worse we turned over position. When horne back ellis will probably go back to 20s but he'll be better for his 1st team run and will have more time to fine tune his skills there n will get more opportunities along the line better equipped!'"

Yes, think he needs game time. Elements of his game look fine, others look clunky. Thought he might have stepped up more easily, when I think back to Danny Brough coming from York for example, but he's not had a run in the first team yet.

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Quote: Mrs Barista "Yes, think he needs game time. Elements of his game look fine, others look clunky. Thought he might have stepped up more easily, when I think back to Danny Brough coming from York for example, but he's not had a run in the first team yet.'"


TBF Danny Brough was hardly an instant hero. If anything he was the long kicking game for Horne and Cooke and never really dominated a game at all.

Brough came into a side led by Swain, Cooke and Horne I reckon Ellis can follow suit if not better.

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Quote: knocker norton "TBF Danny Brough was hardly an instant hero. If anything he was the long kicking game for Horne and Cooke and never really dominated a game at all.

Brough came into a side led by Swain, Cooke and Horne I reckon Ellis can follow suit if not better.'"


Brough slotted in pretty well and easily IMO from a weaker reputation than Championship Player of the Year with 35 tries. I think it's too early to judge Ellis, he's had next to no game time and the way he bossed games last year suggests there's plenty more to come.

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Ellis has a great long kicking game, however he has a lot of development yet, and hopefully Gentle will get the best out of him over the next couple of years..



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Ellis has a great long kicking game, however he has a lot of development yet, and hopefully Gentle will get the best out of him over the next couple of years..



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young kids miss some easy tackles in SL when they first step up. Will take him a good year to really just get use to playing 1st team.
He needs to be in the 1st team now more than the 20s its the only way he will improve now.
will just be better when we have more players back to help him out.

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Young players will make mistakes especially halfbacks and especially when he is playing in a side missing experienced players. He needs to be coming off the bench like he was early in the season but needs must. This experience of starting for 4/5 games will be great for his development.

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Quote: kt170496 "Posters go on about bringing the youngsters in But today proved there are not ready for S/L .You can bring in one at a time and the team can carry that one but to many and the team loses that balance .To have a go at J Ellis is wrong the lad is still learning his trade ,he has been force into the first team because of injuries .Huddersfield are top of S/L who could rotate players last Monday they rested players I wish Hull could have done that I judge Hull on a full squad not a patch up team'"


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Not showing enough with ball in hand for me but the long kicking game is excellent so very similar to Brough when he first came here and if Ellis can improve half as much as him we will have a good player.

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Young or not that missed kick to touch was absolutely unforgiveable, why kick it to the further of the two touchlines in the first place and even worse go for more distance than previous? Okay Alibert should have let Danny take the quick tap but the missed tackles just added to a pretty average performance from him.

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