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| Quote: withernsea zebra "Looks like he's been doing plenty of gym work alright.
Aye, always been a big guy but I guess with little else to do than work off your anger/furstration in the gym for 2 years he was always going to come back a bit bigger. Could be a big player for England in the 4 nations.
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| Quote: PAUL M "Aye, always been a big guy but I guess with little else to do than work off your anger/furstration in the gym for 2 years he was always going to come back a bit bigger. Could be a big player for England in the 4 nations.'"
Yep.
I wouldn't have argued if we'd have managed to get our hands on him when we were having a sniff around him.
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| A 2 year ban is fair, he's kept his nose clean (no pun intended), he's a good player who is now very lucky to have a 2nd chance. But......
1) for the Wigan fans to give him a standing ovation like he'd just come back from a major illness or war is baffling
2) for Eddie and Stevo to brush it under the carpet and joke so trivial about it is wrong.
Both send out the wrong message to kids.
Anyone else feel a bit for the player who has been shoved aside to allow Hock to return?
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| Quote: withernsea zebra "Yep.
I wouldn't have argued if we'd have managed to get our hands on him when we were having a sniff around him.'"
Speak for yourself Zebedee!
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| Quote: GM1 "Speak for yourself Zebedee!
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| the guy has served his ban well, not gotten into any more trouble, put his head down and done the work to get back into shape and into the team,
for his sheer work ethic, i belived he needed a clap, the prodical son has returned,
You wouldnt be moaning if gleeson comes back from his second stint away, infact im sure u will be standing up clapping him too
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| Quote: truewiganer "You wouldnt be moaning if gleeson comes back from his second stint away, infact im sure u will be standing up clapping him too'"
you really comparing taking drugs to having depression/stress?
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| Cocaine may not be preformance enhancing (well sometimes it can be )
But it can mask banned steroids, so although some may see the punishment as harsh, then they have to take that into account.
As KT mentions, a lot of proffesions, esp any that are driver based now have random drug and alcohol tests and pre-screening before employment.
God how i panicked on my first day of my last job , coming back off a Milenium magic weekend
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| Why is it that some threads which have nothing to do with Hull are closed immediately and others are allowed to run and even have mods contributing?
Surely this is a topic for the VT?
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| Quote: Standee "you really comparing taking drugs to having depression/stress?'"
Read the announcement at the top of the board. Any more and you're gone.
Kosh.
im just saying get off ur high horse, and celebrate the fact one player has turned his life around, lets hope more who do stupid things can, so we have no more ending up being left to rot and alone like terry
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| I fully appreciate that people deserve a second chance, but I found the standing ovation he got from the Wigan crowd and the constant drivel spouted by Hemmings and Stevo disgraceful.
I also find it laughable that Hock was given a 2 year ban by the RFL, but then granted special dispensation from them to resume training with Wigan several months prior to the expiry of his ban so that he could resume playing within hours of being allowed to play in peak physical condition.
Once again, the RFL have made themselves look foolish.
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| apparently i said something out of turn,
there was nothing in my post, but thanks for letting me know,
Bloody censors, and it was only 2 months,
wasnt the 2 year ban given by some higher governing body rather than the rfl? n the rfl had to up hold it,
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| Quote: Hutchie "
But it can mask banned steroids, so although some may see the punishment as harsh, then they have to take that into account.
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Does it? I've not heard that before and a cursory look via google didn't pull anything up. I'm not sure how it'd work. Accelerating metabolism maybe? The metabolites themselves will be very different.
As masks go it'd be a bit cack - the equivalent of offering 'I was busy doing an armed robbery' as your alibi.
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| Quote: truewiganer "apparently i said something out of turn,
there was nothing in my post, but thanks for letting me know,
Bloody censors,'"
You speculated on the cause of Gleeson's illness. That's not open for speculation. If you think that's heavy-handed then feel free to speak to Admin, but you might bear in mind that they make the rules in the first place.
Quote: truewiganer "wasnt the 2 year ban given by some higher governing body rather than the rfl? n the rfl had to up hold it,'"
The ban was handed out by the RFL but they used the WADA guidelines which they've signed up to.
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| Quote: Kosh "You speculated on the cause of Gleeson's illness. That's not open for speculation. If you think that's heavy-handed then feel free to speak to Admin, but you might bear in mind that they make the rules in the first place.
The ban was handed out by the RFL but they used the WADA guidelines which they've signed up to.'"
Does it state in those guidline when a 2 year ban actually means someone is banned for 2 years?
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