I totally agree! I do think we do need to play some carefree attacking rugby. At all ages at Hull from 1st team to u16's its all too structured and players don't get the freedom they want. We all know that we have creative players at the side its just getting it out of them and I think the way forward would be a change in the style of play.

The style of play is not going to change for the next 2 years at least. Agar seems to play safety first rugby regardless of the score or occasion. The players look like they are restricted to me and off the cuff stuff is something that rarely happens.

According to wolfie they all worship the ground agar walks on

To be fair though Jake i haven't heard any rumours about player unrest at Hull. I find it strange as well because it is obvious something is really wrong somewhere.

jake will have the answer

Why would there be any unrest. From what I've seen they do what they want and nothing ever happens (apart from tansey obviously

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Fair point

I don't understand why, as a club, we seem to pay big bucks for forwards and develop our own youngsters for the backs? We seem to be doing pretty well in developing forwards over the last few years, and have got some more coming through, but they just can't get in the team. Yet, our backs don't seem to have much flair, and our half-backs seem to have poor (or repetitive) decision-making skills (a sort of country-wide problem in development anyway!).

We need three half-backs. Two on the pitch, and one on the bench as utility. The third one can be a young product, but he needs to have the potential to be a good half-back as well as decent at filling in in other positions (sounds like Whiting, but will never be played at HB for some reason). We need two wingers with pace. We need two strong running centres. And we need a FB with less brain explosions.

TBH, we aren't too far off that as it is. Tansey still has time to develop his game at FB, just needs to work on his defensive decisions. Turner's looking good at centre, but think we need an international class centre to help him develop into a better player. We also need a class winger with pace to burn and less injuries to replace Calderwood. We should have some room next year with the loss off both Raynor and probably Calderwood to get two decent three-quarters.

Obviously can, dont know how though, they wouldnt be talking to a player and publishing that they really want him if they dont have the money, but who knows.

I think you will find your 6 and 7's are organisers on the paddock, both play makers, finch is playing very well for melbourne at the minute and hes far better than richard horne who for me isnt good enough if you want to climb for honours. as for longy hes under contract till next year id start to bring a youngster through who could replace long when he is injured. but obviously we have a quota problem.

heard he was wanting knocking on £250k a year!!!!!!!!! a bit excessive

It's the law of supply and demand mate. He can pretty much name his price