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| Quote: Darrell "There's no wonder the fans blame the coach when he states he played a player against his old club cos he thought it would "Spark him up"'"
and why wouldn't it ?
lets not make scapegoats again thorman was no worse than anyone else on the field , apart from calderwood
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| Quote: fat ash "and why wouldn't it ?
lets not make scapegoats again thorman was no worse than anyone else on the field , apart from calderwood'"
and moa
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| Quote: Cory69 "and moa'"
sorry forgot about him , been very impressed the last few weeks
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East is East,West is West,
and never the twain shall meet.
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| Quote: HFC Boy "Get Huddersfield`s sacked Coach and Conditioner,what do you get?
Beaten 24 NIL at home !
This Club are a joke.'"
The snag is,I aint laughing.
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8903.gif [quote="dave m":36nw6ut6]Briscoe couldn't get into Wigans Team because of Radlinski even though Radlinski was playing crap at the time still better than old bent nose.[/quote:36nw6ut6]
[quote="redtillimdead":36nw6ut6]Oh and as for Briscoe,if he was that fab,why did Wigan see fit to let him leave?[/quote:36nw6ut6]:8903.gif |
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| Quote: fat ash "and why wouldn't it ? '"
Why wouldn't sticking in a player with zero confidence, no respect from his team-mates and no respect from the opposition (who know his weaknesses fairly well, having seen them at close hand for the last few years) be a good idea? A player who plays at half, meaning we'd have to switch our halves and play a limited impact hooker from the start. And then, for good measure, stick him at fullback when he's never shown any aptitude for the position. Are you seriously suggesting that Agar's train of thought was sound?
Quote: fat ash "lets not make scapegoats again thorman was no worse than anyone else on the field , apart from calderwood'"
He was terrible again. Even discounting his blunders in dealing with kicks, he was awful in defence (you have to wonder why someone would be playing rugby when they look so afraid of contact, particularly when tackling), put in a few horrible kicks, frequently took the wrong option (again, he didn't make a decision with the ball, his mind was made up before he ever received it, which is why he does things like give the ball to Burnett on a drop-off when the defender (Kirmond, I think) has already jumped the line inside, instead of going himself through the massive gap) and provided nothing with his running game. The one break he did make after good work from Raynor was painful to watch in its lack of commitment and belief (not to mention speed).
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| First on Huddersfield, would we want us to play like that? Very well drilled and have application I will grant you, but they're a bit boring aren't they?
Secondly on the lads. We played very well in the 1st half, and because of some atrocious decisions by the so called referee, our heads went down which is quite understandable considering our level of confidence.
Don't get me wrong I am far from happy with our season, it has been quite disastrous. But booing the players gets us nowhere. There is effort there is has to be said. Anyone who saw Josh Cordoba walk around the pitch when he was substituted, could never argue against that, he was absolutely knackered.
On Richard Agar I will say this, he deserves his chance with his own team, just as I thought with Peter Sharp. But if this form carries on into next season, he has to be shown the door.
End of after pub rant
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| Like tonight in the south stand...w@nkers shouting Agar out. Ok. Next. The poisons still there. It's like wanting a second opinion when it's obvious you have cancer. I'm hoping Rich will cut the cancer we have out.
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| Quote: fat ash "in my opinion that it is the players (well certain ones) that are to blame for our poor performances . Last week we showed comitment , and the ability to throw the ball about and showed interest .
tonight we looked awful and any desire to win the game seemed to , at least in the second half to be non existent .
we have shown we can do it , but only in games the playes can lift themselves for , derbys are easy to lift for , but i always said it would be this week that showed if we have turned a corner . we havent cause the same lack of passion showed through tonight .
the Anti Agar crew should take a look at the past 3 years , we blamed kear , we blamed sharpe , now we blame agar , whats the one thing that has remained constant (ish) ? the playing staff'" spot on good post
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Downtheante said: "Firstly: Why shouldn't I compare him (Agar) to Fergie (Sir Alex Ferguson)?":46188.jpg |
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| Quote: airliebird58 "First on Huddersfield, would we want us to play like that? Very well drilled and have application I will grant you, but they're a bit boring aren't they?
They are second in the league FFS.
Secondly on the lads. We played very well in the 1st half, and because of some atrocious decisions by the so called referee, our heads went down which is quite understandable considering our level of confidence.
How many times is the 'low confidence' excuse going to be wheeled out without looking at the root cause of this?
On Richard Agar I will say this, he deserves his chance with his own team
Given the evidence of his tenure in charge thus far, what are you basing that on? '"
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| It both the coaches and the players faults.
The players dont put the effort in, dont want to play as a team and let their heads go down as soon as they go behind in a game.
The coach should be drilling in the most basic tatics into the team, like defence formation and backing up the player with the ball. Look at Hudds compared to last season, they all want to work for each other, back each other up and would put their body on the line for a team mate, its blatently obvious that Brown has drilled this mentality into them.
Things will improve next season, as Agar has made some great signings, what we've seen of Tansey proves Agar knows what is needed, but will need to improve his own coaching skills, as the basic skill of the players he's brought in wont carry him forever.
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| Quote: denbo63 "Like tonight in the south stand...w@nkers shouting Agar out. Ok. Next. The poisons still there. It's like wanting a second opinion when it's obvious you have cancer. I'm hoping Rich will cut the cancer we have out.'" nobhead hull fans ,support yoiur team WANK*RS
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| Quote: dano "nobhead hull fans ,support yoiur team WANK*RS'"
I agree, we should support our team and get behind them. We as fans have been just as poor as the players on the field, we are regarded as some of the best fans in the game but are underperforming too. I know its hard to get behind the team, especially when they put so little effort in but booing and shouting Agar out is not going to make things better, it is going to make things worse.
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Downtheante said: "Firstly: Why shouldn't I compare him (Agar) to Fergie (Sir Alex Ferguson)?":46188.jpg |
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| Quote: dano "nobhead hull fans ,support yoiur team WANK*RS'"
Yer ok mate, you might be happy to 'get behind the lads' and applaud the dross being served up by our coaching staff but other people are a bit more enlightened than that.
Nobody enjoys booing their own team or shouting for the coach to be sacked but it is borne out of wanting the team to be successful, something that it is blatantly obvious isn't going to happen under the current regime.
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| Quote: Uncle Junior "Yer ok mate, you might be happy to 'get behind the lads' and applaud the dross being served up by our coaching staff but other people are a bit more enlightened than that.
Nobody enjoys booing their own team or shouting for the coach to be sacked but it is borne out of wanting the team to be successful, something that it is blatantly obvious isn't going to happen under the current regime.'" stay away then do not like do not go ,your choice
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Downtheante said: "Firstly: Why shouldn't I compare him (Agar) to Fergie (Sir Alex Ferguson)?":46188.jpg |
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| Quote: gazcoops "It both the coaches and the players faults.
Yes, players have to take some responsibility but it is the coaches job to motivate them and get the best out of them. Agar isn't doing that therefore he is failing.
The players dont put the effort in, dont want to play as a team and let their heads go down as soon as they go behind in a game.
Because Agar doesn't give them belief
The coach should be drilling in the most basic tatics into the team, like defence formation and backing up the player with the ball. Look at Hudds compared to last season, they all want to work for each other, back each other up and would put their body on the line for a team mate, its blatently obvious that Brown has drilled this mentality into them.
So you admit Agar is unable to do this, despite having longer at the helm than Brown.
Things will improve next season, as Agar has made some great signings
Yes they probably will, by default. We won't come within a mile of winning anything though, can you seriously see Agar outsmarting Tony Smith/Potter/McLennan in a big playoff game?
but will need to improve his own coaching skills, as the basic skill of the players he's brought in wont carry him forever.
Why on earth would you want our club to be coached by someone who is 'learning-on-the-job' to that degree?
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