in a business isnt that the plan??

Surely part of any business plan is to also look to the future. It's fair enough saying "pass sales in the bag, shirt sales in the bag" but is what we have made this year going to cover what doesn't end up been made next if ( ) things don't improve. You can hide away from the truth as much as you want but as long as things stay the same at Hull FC, such as performances and ill feeling among the fans then the revenue brought in is certainly going to fall.

As has been stated many times, Sports Clubs aren't like traditional businesses, while is is comendable that the club is on a sound financial base, that is primarlily due to the paying customers (fans) buying passes, tickets, shirts etc. As with any business if the customers don't like the product they will shop elsewhere (not in terms of going to rovers, but giving up on the game) once that happens income drops, profit drops etc etc.

Given the last three years the customers/fans have been amazingly generous in proping the business/club up, however its apparent that goodwill is pretty well exhausted now and the board could be in for a rude awakening next year if things don't improve dramaticaly this year. (by which I mean more than scraping into the playoffs, but given we've beaten crusaders twice and no one else in the last 14-15 games I really can see that happening can you?)

westerman style you mean

Personally i think we will turn things around and come good..

For a sporting club running as a business it's only part of the plan.

On field success and trophies are just as important. Or they should be (mainly because they can directly link to financial success).

I admire your optimisim, however, 2008/2009, (if we were to be honest 2010 wasn't all that good) and 2011 to date suggests to me that your belief is unfounded and we'll end up 10-14th if things don't change sharpish.

We've had 6 games and there's been only a fleeting possibility of that. You'll have to forgive those who don't share your optimism

By 'come good', he probably means getting in the play offs. Don't forget this is the fella that said getting 8th would be 'great' and anything more than that 'superb'. He really doesn't aim that high.

The same fella also said "nobody inside the club gives a tozz" - I think he may actually be right for once!! As for 'improvement', we'll be lucky to make the play-offs in my opinion and even if we do we'll get knocked out at the first hurdle. Still, if we've sold 8,000 shirts, 9,000 passes etc that's ok then

You've got to give him some credit though , At least he's on the same wave length as the club .

And who says electro shock therapy doesn't work