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Quote: Sebasteeno "I think Houghtons getting unnecessary critism here - He came on when the three main forwards went off so was never gonna be able to do a lot without a pack in front of him. Iirc he did a couple of scoots and was quite lively and id have him off the bench ahead of Lovadua who i see as a completely pointless signing.'"


I might feel different after another watch about Houghton.

It should be an either or between Houghton and Lovodua for me, unless injuries say otherwise.

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First half was really good to watch , New signings look to have settled in well Dwyer especially . Pleased for Cator to get through his first game after his terrible injuries.

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Quote: mwindass "He looks far too big. He's got the turning circle of an oil tanker

Don't know if it's an attitude thing or what, but we've definitely seen the best of him.'"

Yeah he's definitely too big, he's a well built bloke so hes never going to be a flyer, but there's too much bulk there, he was caught at marker for our 2nd try because he couldn't turn to get Dwyer fast enough.

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Quote: Thetalentboy "Houghton scored a try that 50% of the crowd would of scored

He just spends most of the time just running around like a headless chicken

He makes 10 yard scoots yes but dwyer would be turning them 10 yard scoots into breaks/trys

Houghton is here on sentiment only'"

We all agree he has to improve, but what you say is baseless. The last three coaches, two of whom have had a degree of success, deemed him good enough to play, regularly. They know more about RL than anyone on here, so there is a reason Houghton features, and it isn't sentiment. He has no prior connection with TS, so there is no sentiment involved in Smith's decision to play him. Lovodua for me isn't a hooker, I don't really know where he fits, but his distribution from dummy half isn't great, some of his passes go higher than necessary and slow down the attack, he isn't really a punchy backrower and not a halfback. He is handy to have around as he can cover those positions to a degree, but he doesn't warrant a quota spot, for me, anyway. .I'd like to see Brown in the 17, I feel he is probably ahead of Taylor for form, but we don't all see what TS sees everyday and maybe he has already decided not to renew his contract, which expires at the end of this campaign. It is only round two, against Leeds who seemed absolutely clueless and I would not be surprised if there is dressing room unrest there, some players hardly bothered against Warrington and maybe Rohan's novel new approaches have been a bad idea, who knows? But to be bagging Houghton after game one is ridiculous, we need him for his D if that Cas result is a yardstick, one area in which he is outstanding.

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Thought Taylor went well against Cas. If anyone I'd be dropping Evans for Brown. But think Evans will get another week.

Mcintosh gets another week too. If Mitch is out for a few weeks, wouldn't be against giving Litten a go on thr wing if Mcintosh can't cut out his errors.

Hoy, Swift, Sutcliffe, Scott, Mcintosh, McNamara, Clifford, Taylor, Dwyer, Satae, Griffin, Lane, Fash

Sao, Evans, Savelio, Lovodua/Houghton

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Quote: mwindass "Thought Taylor went well against Cas. If anyone I'd be dropping Evans for Brown. But think Evans will get another week.

Mcintosh gets another week too. If Mitch is out for a few weeks, wouldn't be against giving Litten a go on thr wing if Mcintosh can't cut out his errors.

Hoy, Swift, Sutcliffe, Scott, Mcintosh, McNamara, Clifford, Taylor, Dwyer, Satae, Griffin, Lane, Fash

Sao, Evans, Savelio, Lovodua/Houghton'"


Taylor at least looks in better nick than last year.
My biggest gripe is him shooting out the line to put a big shot on and missing entirely.

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Quote: scarrie "Taylor at least looks in better nick than last year.
My biggest gripe is him shooting out the line to put a big shot on and missing entirely.'"


Did he do that against Cas? If he did I missed it.

Agree though it drives me crazy when he does it

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Quote: mwindass "Did he do that against Cas? If he did I missed it.

Agree though it drives me crazy when he does it'"


Yeah, he did it a couple of times. Once he missed the man entirely icon_lol.gif
I suppose its a fairly minor thing.
Anyway, some signs we might get a better version of Taylor this year, which we desperately need as Sao and Satae can't do it all alone again.

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Quote: mwindass "Taylor at least looks in better nick than last year.
My biggest gripe is him shooting out the line to put a big shot on and missing entirely.'"


Did he do that against Cas? If he did I missed it.

Agree though it drives me crazy when he does it'"


Yes a couple of times and missed by some way especially the 2nd one he attempted.

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I must've had a few more beers than I thought

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Quote: Yippee try yay "It's sad to see the way Fonua has declined since his first spell with us, he was unplayable at times and so exciting to watch. Hopefully he can regain some form for Cas, his confidence looks shot to bits.

He'll always get a big cheer from me for everything he did in 2016 & 17.'"


Think Talanoa helped make him look a lot better at times.

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Quote: GrahamBray "We all agree he has to improve, but what you say is baseless. The last three coaches, two of whom have had a degree of success, deemed him good enough to play, regularly. They know more about RL than anyone on here, so there is a reason Houghton features, and it isn't sentiment. He has no prior connection with TS, so there is no sentiment involved in Smith's decision to play him. Lovodua for me isn't a hooker, I don't really know where he fits, but his distribution from dummy half isn't great, some of his passes go higher than necessary and slow down the attack, he isn't really a punchy backrower and not a halfback. He is handy to have around as he can cover those positions to a degree, but he doesn't warrant a quota spot, for me, anyway. .I'd like to see Brown in the 17, I feel he is probably ahead of Taylor for form, but we don't all see what TS sees everyday and maybe he has already decided not to renew his contract, which expires at the end of this campaign. It is only round two, against Leeds who seemed absolutely clueless and I would not be surprised if there is dressing room unrest there, some players hardly bothered against Warrington and maybe Rohan's novel new approaches have been a bad idea, who knows? But to be bagging Houghton after game one is ridiculous, we need him for his D if that Cas result is a yardstick, one area in which he is outstanding.'"


well his D didnt help much given he was on the field for the second half

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Man of Steel points front the cas game:

3 Hoy
2 Mamo
1 Faraimo

Not sure what game they watched. How Fash didn't pick up any points is crackers.

Thought Miller was Cas best too

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Quote: mwindass "Man of Steel points front the cas game

Agree, surprised at the 2 Cas players in Mamo & Faraimo as they for me weren't Cas' best players on the day

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Wynne would be a good replacement for Darnel when fit, plenty of pace and he's not getting in at centre anytime soon.

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