Too true. Too quick to moan and whinge, season over, not good enough, same old story etc etc etc.

Boring.

You having a pop at me there......i said Crookes had a good game and ran ball out well and coverd well running back in defence but trys still came down that channel....as for Whiting...he put in a good defensive stint as well and was in Baileys face but did i say standing up to him...no...Whiting wasnt his usual self but he wasnt dog turd...he was a damn sight better than Galea and Westerman.

Yeah i do forget. I take it DrH was stood near me at the ground, i wanted to stand in the South stand it was that bad.

don't worry i was there behind the sticks freezing my off too i must of not seen the same Crookes as you he made some good cover tackles and has pace but i do like lineham more on what ive seen of them both over last year and this year so far but in terms of this game he did more then some of the players i agree and its only the 1st game so we shall see what happens maybe ill eat my words and he will be awsome i hope he does.

Whiting and Galea were as useless as each other last night.

Our only two bits of good attacking play were created by Seymour and Westerman, yet they are still getting stick. Unbelievable.

Galea i can understand but very unusual for Whiting to be off the mark....agree about Seymour but im still unconvinced about westerman...he needs to be in 2nd row for me.

took the words out of my mouth mate

The fact is we looked poor in defence and attack. Fact is we lost 36-6 (and were lucky not to concede more). Fact is we are a team without direction (and that isn't going to change without a decent SH). Fact is the players have had that much smoke blown up their backsides without actually proving anything. Fact is there are always fans that see through black and white glasses and aren't willing to accept reality.

But you hang in there, Im sure this season will be a special one for you, just lack the last and the one before that and the one before that .........

This forum is called RL Fans, not RL Coaches. People will give their opinions on players' performances, team selections, bench rotations and all the other guff because that's precisely what these boards are for.

The whole scoffing at 'armchair coaches' bit just looks faintly ridiculous.

Seymour was just awful in attack. One piece of good play doesn't alter that fact. I don't think Westerman was very remarkable either way, but I would say he was quite fortunate his offload for the try ended up in Arundel's hands and not in touch (or in Hall's hands). It was a speculative one, without doubt.

You don't actually understand what facts are, do you?

You do know we've only played one game, don't you? It's not time for the noose just yet.

Come on boys n girls its one game not the end of the world
Bulls , saints and wire to come next and I was only expecting have 2pts after first four games so im not worried just yet.

Keep the faith its a marathon not a sprint...... BEL13VE IN ANY KIND OF WEATHER

I went last night & have had time to reflect however my view has not changed.

I have taken into account injuries, the arrival of new players & those that chose to leave the club, that it was the first completitve match. Leed's performance & in my view @ times some poor decisions by the referee.

In my opinion it was a disappointing performance from Hull. Overall I saw nothing from Hull to be excited about. Nothing new & @ times dumb & poor play.

I will praise Hull when it is deserved & merited but last night in my view it was not, it was an unacceptable performance. I hope that last night's performance was 'a one off'. I do not expect Hull to win every match but I do want to see them play better than they did last night.

Enlighten me, which of those weren't facts?