Got a poor coach, McNamara is the most overated coach in SL, got all the tools (most in SL) but hasn't delivered. Glad we didn't get him as coach, as not the right coach to build.

I'd take Ryan Sherdian next year though as attack coach.

Its amazing how you can turn anything thet happens in rugby into a negative about Hull.

Depressing. We could end up bottom.
London and Cas games our only realistic chance of winning.
London have Leeds and giants to come.

Hull turn anything that happens in rugby into a negative about Hull

He’s not wont hough is he…Catalan wasn’t great last week and even worse today.London moved the ball well and look a damn sight faster in attack than we are.

He isn't, but he posts like he is telling something we don't know, we aren't very good, we all know that.

Catalans are a funny side, beat Rovers at CP not long ago, which only Warrington have this season.

If we can put out a side like we did against Wigan, we will best London, add in Cartwright, Sao, Ese Ese nd Eseh our pack looks a whole lot better and bigger.

I think we will win 3 more games, London, Cas and one more game.

We aren't very good, but a few teams above us aren't great either.

I need to continually post in the hope it sinks in

Well we all know we love em and we all will stick anything out with them, but my initial feeling when we are vying for the bottom spot and 'success this year' would now been seen if we avoid it, and doing it against a team of part timers who know that they are 'going down', is that its all pretty embarrassing really.

Yes that was my point wilf.
It’s depressing how far we have declined.

I was feeling reasonably positive until yesterday. Still not sure if I'm renewing my pass next year. If I don't I'll write a lengthy piece on here accompanied by the old simon bates our tune theme. There won't be a dry eye in the house

It also shows how studid the decision was by the spreadsheet Charlies to scrap promotion and relegation.No end of season excitement or pressure in a battle for relegation
Now there is no pressure on us and no incentive for London just pride as its well known that Wakefield have the S/L spot for next season.
Would have been interesting in hindsight to see how different our approach to recuitment would have been had relegation been a threat

I’d be looking at both Ellis and Sheridan at London to join us…like Dave K said,Sheridan attack coach and I’d have Ellis as assistant to Cartwright.On a side note…wonder why Sheridan didn’t follow Powell to wakey?….

Tremendous result, well for London at any rate!

At least we no longer have the ignominy of being the only side to lose to them this season!
The down side to this is the possibility of us finishing bottom has reared up once more, which gives a bit of edge to the game in two weeks time.

It's not good for any sport to have a side who are uncompetitive and who become ritual whipping boys, but if we were to finish bottom of the pile (which I personally don't think we will) it would open up some awkward questions about our own competitiveness!

It may work in our favour, give us something to play for, focus our minds over the last few weeks.

the biggest worry we have as fans is the 'things being still up in the air' about who ends up in super league comments from the London chairman and it wouldn't surprise me if the owners kick out SMG and change the goal posts again. Then we are in trouble

When I heard that comment this afternoon it made my ears prick up as well, think my heart missed a couple of beats also!!

Everyone has been working on the assumption that it is to be London out, Wakefield back in for next year, but given the sport's notorious habit of suddenly changing their minds on a casual whim, that fear has continued to nag away at the back of my mind throughout this tortuous year!!

It would be best all round if we were to win at Magic and put some daylight between us on the ladder. London will target the game as a potential win just as they have in the first two meetings with us this year. We will need to match their energy and enthusiasm from the start or we may found ourselves in bother again!!

Just when you think things might be settling down a touch, this happens!! At least it keeps us awake and on the edge of our seats, wondering/fearing what might be heading our way next!! It's never dull with us is it!!!