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| Quote: Chris71 "I think Watson has proved to be a coach who can get the best out of what he has available. His teams have played an attractive style and work together. For all the problems they have faced over the past few seasons and constant decimation and rebuilding of squads due to players leaving he has still managed to get his squads to perform beyond expectations.
Think he would be a good option to replace LR and one that would definitely improve things from day one.'"
I think Radford has proved he can get the best out of what he has available, I think he's proved it more times than Watson.
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| Quote: giddyupoldfella "I think Radford has proved he can get the best out of what he has available, I think he's proved it more times than Watson.'"
Radford's had a lot more at his disposal than Watson's ever had.
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| Quote: giddyupoldfella "Is that a no then? That your verdict wouldn't be changed had we got to Wembley (which we were 80 minutes from) and we made the top 5 (Which we missed out on points difference)
At least we had a crack at competing in both competitions again, under Radford. Just not good enough for some.'"
But that is the problem we didn’t get to Wembley and we threw away the Top 5 with that phenomenal run of losses that would have seen any other coach given the boot.
It’s all well and good saying what if but we haven’t. This season is already 5 games in pretty much replicating the last few seasons. In fact you could have easily put the last few games in with last season or two and they wouldn’t look out of place. Nothing is changing and we can’t just keep banging on about what if and give him time. He’s had more than enough time to change things and it just isn’t getting any better.
How many more years are we going to go on about the back to back cups? They were over 3 years ago now.
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| Quote: giddyupoldfella "I think Radford has proved he can get the best out of what he has available, I think he's proved it more times than Watson.'"
Watson has over achieved and got far more out of what he had available than Radford has done with far better resources and squad then Watson had at Salford.
Just about everyone had Salford down as one of the relegation favourites yet turned out the be Grand Finalists. Even after losing Lui to Leeds who was a key instrumental figure.
If anything with everything Radford had at his disposal I’d say he has underachieved in the whole.
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| Quote: Chris71 "But that is the problem we didn’t get to Wembley and we threw away the Top 5 with that phenomenal run of losses that would have seen any other coach given the boot.
It’s all well and good saying what if but we haven’t. This season is already 5 games in pretty much replicating the last few seasons. In fact you could have easily put the last few games in with last season or two and they wouldn’t look out of place. Nothing is changing and we can’t just keep banging on about what if and give him time. He’s had more than enough time to change things and it just isn’t getting any better.
How many more years are we going to go on about the back to back cups? They were over 3 years ago now.'" I think our first five games are pretty much replicating 2016 as well. In fact I think we're slightly better, because I remember us getting a tonking at Widnes in the first five that year. So is it a shambles that we're replicating the 2016 season, so far?
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| Quote: Chris71 "Watson has over achieved and got far more out of what he had available than Radford has done with far better resources and squad then Watson had at Salford.
Just about everyone had Salford down as one of the relegation favourites yet turned out the be Grand Finalists. Even after losing Lui to Leeds who was a key instrumental figure.
If anything with everything Radford had at his disposal I’d say he has underachieved in the whole.'" He had the man of Steel available to him. Not to mention our current first choice second row, Jones. Some useful weapons there.
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| Quote: giddyupoldfella "He had the man of Steel available to him. Not to mention our current first choice second row, Jones. Some useful weapons there.'"
Still no where near the same resources, facilities or squads that Lees had at his disposal.
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| Quote: giddyupoldfella "I think our first five games are pretty much replicating 2016 as well. In fact I think we're slightly better, because I remember us getting a tonking at Widnes in the first five that year. So is it a shambles that we're replicating the 2016 season, so far?'"
This just proves that nothing is improving and the reason for me the time has come to make the change. It’s still the same issues just a different season and different group of players.
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| Quote: Chris71 "Still no where near the same resources, facilities or squads that Lees had at his disposal.'" Lee's engine room in Mini and Manu were done last season, they'd gone. He's replaced them very well for this season.
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| Quote: Chris71 "This just proves that nothing is improving and the reason for me the time has come to make the change. It’s still the same issues just a different season and different group of players.'" Nah, it just proves we need to show him a little bit more patience, and let's see where we are when the trophies are handed out,
We looked very destructive on the 1 occasion we had more or less our best team out this season. Since then, we've just had players dropping out the team from game to game.
Don't think I don't understand people's frustrations, I do, because it's frustrating, we all wanna succeed. I just think people are pointing the blame at the wrong things.
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| Quote: giddyupoldfella "Lee's engine room in Mini and Manu were done last season, they'd gone. He's replaced them very well for this season.'"
Other than Jones granted I’d hardly say Salford had any better in that dept even with Manu and Mini at the end of their careers and in squads as a whole Radford has had the better. Plus the constant speculation and uncertainty of players leaving that Watson had to deal with
I do believe had Watson had the squad Lee had he would have got more out of them and had Lee had the squad that Salford had he’d have got less out of them.
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| Quote: giddyupoldfella "Nah, it just proves we need to show him a little bit more patience, and let's see where we are when the trophies are handed out,
We looked very destructive on the 1 occasion we had more or less our best team out this season. Since then, we've just had players dropping out the team from game to game.
Don't think I don't understand people's frustrations, I do, because it's frustrating, we all wanna succeed. I just think people are pointing the blame at the wrong things.'"
To be fair I think he’s been shown enough patience and far more than any other coach would have. After the way last season just got thrown away at the end he had to have the team ready from the off. For me the Leeds game apart he just hasn’t. They just look so flat and lack any intensity both in attack and defence. We still can not play an 80min game and are just too predictable.
Sadly it’s just the same old story
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| Quote: Chris71 "To be fair I think he’s been shown enough patience and far more than any other coach would have. After the way last season just got thrown away at the end he had to have the team ready from the off. For me the Leeds game apart he just hasn’t. They just look so flat and lack any intensity both in attack and defence. We still can not play an 80min game and are just too predictable.
Sadly it’s just the same old story'" Then it's always gonna be the same old story, because unless you can achieve perfection season on season, then whoever the coach is, is gonna be a failure.
Let's take the last 4 seasons, two successful seasons, a write off season and a season of falling just slightly short. So by my calculator, he's still in credit.
Get behind your coach.
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| Giddy up old fella
I think you are indeed a tad Giddy if I may say
Other than Lee’s family I’m finding it hard for anyone to have a reason to keep
Going with LR
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