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| Quote: paintman "Found this on the Premier League website
Should the FA Cup winners, runners-up (if applicable) and the Football League Cup winners already have qualified for Europe, their place goes to the next best placed clubs in the Premier League.
Looks like City would miss out if they lose the final'"
I could be wrong but that reads to me that City will qualify if they lose the final being the runners-up? |
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If Arsenal finish 5th and win the cup they will go into the Europa League and City wont.
If Arsenal finish 4th and win the cup then City will be in The Europea League
If City win the cup then they will play in the Europa League
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| Quote: Doc Brown "I could be wrong but that reads to me that City will qualify if they lose the final being the runners-up?'"
I think it depends where Arsenal finish. 4th or 5th |
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Im shocked that Allam hasnt had a paddy and tried to get the final moved as playing it in London gives a home advantage to the London Gunners
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| Quote: paintman "I think it depends where Arsenal finish. 4th or 5th'"
I honestly have no idea.
Quote: paintman "There are three places in the UEFA Europa League available
This makes sense. Winners of the cups and 5th place qualify. Simple.
Quote: paintman "In the event the FA Cup winners are qualified for the UEFA Champions League the FA Cup runners-up will qualify, but in the place reserved for the lowest ranking Barclays Premier League representative. The place with direct access to the Group Stage will be given to the club that finishes in the highest position in the Barclays Premier League of the clubs qualifying for the UEFA Europa League.'"
This also makes sense. If Arsenal finish 4th and win the cup then Hull City are in Europe.
Quote: paintman "English winners of the UEFA Europa League will enter at the Group Stage, gaining an extra domestic place only if they fail to qualify through other means for the UEFA Champions League or UEFA Europa League. If the holders of the UEFA Europa League have already qualified for Europe, no extra domestic place will be gained.'"
Again, this makes sense. But it's not applicable to City.
Quote: paintman "Should the FA Cup winners, runners-up (if applicable) and the Football League Cup winners already have qualified for Europe, their place goes to the next best placed clubs in the Premier League.'"
Now this is where I am confused. This line mentions FA cup winners, runners-up, and League Cup winners. Why mention the runners-up if they're not eligible for qualification? That really does read to me that the runners up take the Europa League spot if the winners have already qualified for either the Champions League or Europa League and that it would only pass onto the highest placed team if the runners-up had already qualified for Europe along with the winners. Does my reasoning make sense?
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City will be in Europe.
They win - Europa League
Arsenal win - they're already in Europe (probably), City as runners-up get their place in the Europa League.
The League Cup is slightly different in that if the winners are already in Europe, their place goes to the next place team in the league, not the runners-up.
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| Quote: frepneyboy "Im shocked that Allam hasnt had a paddy and tried to get the final moved as playing it in London gives a home advantage to the London Gunners'"
Plus Wembley has been home to the Gunners down the years. |
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| Quote: barton baird "Plus Wembley has been home to the Gunners down the years.'"
Its an outrage i tell tee |
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| Quote: Errlee Berd "City will be in Europe.
They win - Europa League
Arsenal win - they're already in Europe (probably), City as runners-up get their place in the Europa League.
The League Cup is slightly different in that if the winners are already in Europe, their place goes to the next place team in the league, not the runners-up.'"
Not according to the HDM
"Arsenal are in desperate need of points as they chase Champions League football, a feat that in turn would guarantee the Tigers a Europa League spot through the FA Cup" |
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| Quote: barton baird "Plus Wembley has been home to the Gunners down the years.'"
He's asked the FA give him Wembley i heared,no other details,just that he wants them to give him it or he won't let City play in the cup final. |
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I dont think the Europa League is much of a money spinner.I can remember teams virtually giving away tickets for Thursday 6pm kick offs plus the travelling to far flung parts of Europe in midweek must have an impact on a teams performances in the league.
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| Quote: paintman "I dont think the Europa League is much of a money spinner.I can remember teams virtually giving away tickets for Thursday 6pm kick offs plus the travelling to far flung parts of Europe in midweek must have an impact on a teams performances in the league.'"
Clearly its a name change that puts cash in the bank.
I really do hope City win the cup now, as forevermore will be engraved on the FA cup the name Hull CITY AFC.
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| Quote: Wilde 3 "If Arsenal finish 5th and win the cup they will go into the Europa League and City wont.If Arsenal finish 4th and win the cup then City will be in The Europea League
If City win the cup then they will play in the Europa League'"
5th place and FA Cup winners get a Europa League spot.
Arsenal can't have both? |
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| Quote: davey37 "5th place and FA Cup winners get a Europa League spot.
Arsenal can't have both?'"
They can according to the way I read it.Arsenal win the cup and finish 5th then the next best placed team in the premier go into the europa league. |
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| Quote: paintman "They can according to the way I read it.Arsenal win the cup and finish 5th then the next best placed team in the premier go into the europa league.'"
That is only IF the FA Cup winners and Runners up have already qualified for Europe.
FA Cup Runners up come before next best placed team in Premiership. |
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