New coach by the Crusaders game.

Is that a statement or a wish?

50/50.

New coach or promoted coach ?

acklams? jim bell? ellie rose?

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He was voted favourite to be the first to get sacked on another on-line site before a ball was kicked.

If Agar goes do people know what they actually want? There are many reason why Agar could be wanted out by the fans and I would agree with most of them but I wonder how long a new person would be given but they suffer the fans backlash. I am not defending Agar but just asking what do we want?

I would look at Saints and Leeds who have just appointed new coaches and ask would the Hull fans have been happy with either McDermott or Simmons? McDermott is hardly a top coach and does anyone think Leeds comeback at MM or impressive performance on Friday was down to him? I don't, I just saw a typical Leeds style display. Same with Simmons, did their comeback or demolition come as a result of the new coach or was it down to a typical Saints style performance? I don't think either of those two would have been looked upon favourably by the fans and with good reason. The fact is the type of ruby both those sides play are ingrained in them. Of course a coach could do a tweak here of there but they will always play 'their' rugby. Under Mcrae we played some great rugby but never had anything to show for it, Sharp came in and changed us into a team that attacked the ruck and got us to a GF and since then it has stuck. To me a lot of it comes down to the players mentality and that is a battle any new coach of Hull will have.

I don't think a new coach can work miracles and I think the process will be a slow one as the mentality of the player needs to change. People bang on about a new scrum half but even if we signed Thurston it won't change our style overnight, it needs a comeplete change in mindset and that will take time. Take Bradford with Orford, he produced the odd moment of brilliance but the Bulls never looked any better. I think we sometimes give up on players too easily, Washbrook for example, the same thing happened with Brough who had he stayed would have maeant we did not have the halfback problems we have had for the last 5 years. yes he had problems but we could have worked on them, he is exactly what we lack.

I'd love Noble to get the job personally, he would bring some defensive tactics to our game such as a rush defence and he would bring real structure to our play. People give huge praise to McGuire but imo he benfitted hugely from what Noble did at Wigan and whislt he has done a great job Noble gave him an ideal platform to work from.

Whoever we bring in once Agar eventually leaves I think we need to be patient and not expect miracles.

The crusaders played some great attacking rugby at times last season under Noble . Huddersfield (Remember when they were just bash and barge )have embraced a new attacking mentality under Brown but have kept their rigorous defensive qualities in no more than a couple of seasons.
Wire got rid of Cullen and look at the way Smith has them playing now .I don't think fans are expecting miracles but you look at what other teams have done in a couple of seasons and what we have done .

I along with thousands of Hull Fc fans just want to see all the energy the players put in on and off the field channelled into something resembling 'structure, direction, and most of all entertainment'. For me this has to fall into the coaches responsibility.
Halfbacks or not we have endured 3 seasons of watching forwards trundling up the pitch and then for a random player to kick aimlessly towards the opposition.
Friday night for me showed we can play 'some' decent stuff; Sharps try coming from an overlap and the Briscoe run, but on the whole we are just too predictable and negative in our play.

To get a grasp on how bad we are you have to look for the positives in our playing style.

Sorry to say Richard, “You have failed”