Agree with most of that although I can't see us winning a play-off game. Of the first choice back line at the start of the season, ie McKinnon, Sharp, Martin, Yeaman and Briscoe, only one played last night, and out of position. Whilst that's absolutely no excuse for the performance, which was diabolical, the point is that, these absentees, coupled with the losses of Moa and Tickle, IMO mean that we simply won't have the experience or quality available to deal with the intensity of a play-off game. If it ends up being against Huddersfield, for example, they've got far, far more recent play-off experience and as Leeds showed last year, that counts for a lot.

As you say, looking at next year, the rumoured half back signings would be a huge step on from anything we've had for years. I think Houghton and Heremaia both look very good, rumours of bringing in a full back too. A starting pack of Lynch, Houghton, new prop, Ellis, Tickle, Westerman would be strong. Concerns would be depth of squad, but we do have Bowden, Green, Crooks and Lineham breaking through this year and their development will be greatly improved by the experience they've had.

Looking forward to hearing what Gentle has to work with next year. Hopefully we'll get our half back targets and kick on from there. If you'll pardon the pun.

If Rovers were in a lofty position looking down on us I could understand your smugness,but your lot are even worse than us at the moment,so may I suggest you look at your own team before having a go at ours?
Our dip in form is temporary like Achilles.

Given the sounds that Gentle has been making about needing another 6-7 players next year, and he has been saying this from about 2 months ago. I am quite surprised that performances have held up at Hull. He maybe performing with average players this year, but telling them they are average and that they have no future next year at Hull is different to thinking it in private. It's surely a risk for team unity.

Sometimes the truth hurts.

It's Pearson that's been doing all the talking with regards the quality of the squad not Gentle.

I have seen performances this season which suggest we are good enough to win a play-off game, I think with a bit of soul searching and pride we can achieve that, normally after a performance like last nights we tend to see some changes and bounce back, mind when we were running into these last 3 games I actually thought Bradford would be the tricky one so we will have to see what happens there. Gentle has proven to me so far he has an eye for a decent player so I am excited about next years signings, I am under no illusions that they will no all be world beaters however the crux is he will hopefully bin the players who are not good enough and sign players that are consistently better and who know how to play with pride week in week out.

If we finish 6th then the best performance we have in us (as per Leeds at home) will definitely be good enough to win a play off game at home. Not sure about away where we've been poor. Obviously we have a performance in us as per last night and should that raise its head again we wouldn't beat a National League 2 team.

I don’t think it is just a matter of are we or are we not good enough for some success in the play offs. I think the biggest problem we have is some of the players we are having to play, just cannot be ar$ed.

I think that is what prompted Person to say that we what players who want to play for us.

On that showing any local amateur side would have taken them to the cleaners.Worst display I have had the misfortune to witness.

Before this season began I thought the majority of fans agreed this season was to be a transitional season. AP trying to steady the ship, previous regimes signings, which are gone or going. I'll agree there has been some woeful performances but imo also a few glimpses of quality. Injuries (again) this year has been unbelievable (so players playing out of position.) yet we still sit in the play off positions. Improvements to the youth setup and young lads finally getting a chance. And still people moan. No wonder we get called fickle.

I would take the 66-6 away defeat at wigan as worse that yesterday. i flew all the way from Saudi arabia to go and watch it.

Luckily I missed that one.

people need to remember where we have come from, yes Saturday was a disappointment, but we all know we are carrying some players that know they are moving on, maybe some that have uncertain futures as well.

IF we finish 6th most people would have taken that at the start of the season, they'd certainly have taken it at the end of last, we'll play Huddersfield, who haven't exactly covered themselves in glory this season, they have a departed coach and departing captain, if we get the right players in the Black and White on the day then we can beat anyone.

My biggest worry is this : ' Is this the best Gentle can get out of a side ? '

Any great coach can have 1 poor performance but to have so many poor/average is worrying for me as a great coach can work miracles usually and over a season has very few 'crap' team performances against his name regardless of who's moving on etc