sensible targets.

Personally I hope AP gives Gentle more time, Gentle's never had the opportunity to field his 'gun' players together as yet.

Maybe the players aren't receptive to his man-management ,or Gentle's honeymoon period is over - who knows?

I read an interesting article from Harrison Hansen, saying players were in a 'comfort zone' before Maguire took the reins at Wigan,and after 3 days Commando training with the Army in freezing conditions,it gave the team a new mental attitude,also Maguire demanded his players were in the gym at 6.30 am.

Certainly there is no excuse, that the basics cannot be achieved, just hard work and practice.

Shaun Wane
Brian McDermott
Francis Cummings
Paul Anderson

Oh No they are English - Maybe its down to Radders after all

Lose to Wakefield (which we will) some people's wishes will come true.

bit harsh on PG with all the injuries in hand.

Its a results business, Peter Sharp was axed despite finishing 2nd and 4th in his first two seasons.

I also don't buy the injuries excuse, it is attacking creativity we lack, and the only creative players out are Holdsworth and Seymour (who's proven he isn't good enough anyway) Ellis, Yeaman, Lynch etc are good players who will make a difference, but we won't suddenly start playing attacking free-flowing rugby when they return.

A lot have supporters have had enough and the fact we was missing a lot of players will make no difference.
The players are either s hit or the coaches instructions are s hit or the average players are incapable of following the most basic of instructions.

I've read and listened to the likes Houghton, Tickle & Briscoe aswell as Mr Motivator Gentle.

The club is sinking without a captain

I wont talk about passion and pride in the jersey because we all know the players don't appear to give a fook.

he can only hand out shirts and instructions he cant play 4 em ive seen them train and they do all the wedges drops and plays other SL clubs do, when were at full strength and gelling and we arnt getting results then bring out the axe.

Don't worry a world class is scheduled to arrive for 2014*

*Please note this may be subject to change after enough season tickets are sold...

How many more years do you think that the majority of our supporters will fall for this?

And look where that got us.

So our problem is lack of creativity, our only creative players are out injured, but you don't buy the 'injuries excuse'?

How does that work then?

Oh - and attacking creativity is not our only problem. I only wish it were.

god knows.. i buy a season pass because im an hull fc supporter no matter what.

It is worrying though that our entire attacking structures rely on Holdsworth & McDonnell, and that due to their injuries the rest of the team can't settle into them and grow accustomed.