|
 |
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 5924 | Coventry Bears |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Aug 2005 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
May 2025 | Feb 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Feel a little unsure about this tbh.
Positives for Agar is he's young, well thought of by most fans and players and deserves his chance.
Downsides are that I wonder if he has the ability to take us the top when hes been assistant to a very poor side. I also wanted someone who came in to lay the law down to Kath and say its this way or no way and im not sure whether Richard will do that. But I could be massively wrong so he'll get my full backing.
So congratulations Richard and lets hope you can take us back to the top. 
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 15980 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jan 2006 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
May 2016 | Jun 2015 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote Cardiff_05="Cardiff_05"I think the very fact that he has familiarity with the players will encourage him to shake things up and try different things, and the players will trust him with his new ideas and join him in hopefully successfully implementing them. The players don't have to take time to build up a rapport with Agar, and vice versa, so the familairity issue is not necessarily a bad thing.'"
Not how I see it at all. The fact he will have "friends" within the team may cloud his decisions when it comes to who to play and how play them or even who to get rid of, ie Yeamo moved straight back to the left, was that his decision or did Yeamo ask to move back and Agar let him? Not saying that is the case but a Head coach should have a certain distance between himself and the players so they know who is boss and it may be difficult for Agar to stamp his authority on the players after being the assistant. Just my opinion of course and not saying that is is the case but it could be a potential problem IMO.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 8157 | Hull FC |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Apr 2007 | 18 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Mar 2024 | Mar 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote Robbo4="Robbo4", ie Yeamo moved straight back to the left, was that his decision or did Yeamo ask to move back and Agar let him? .'"
That to me is one of the reason he could make a good coach, players have favoured positions and play better usually in that favoured position. Wingers and centres are usually comfortable at either side of the pitch so if a player has expressed a favoured side to the coach surely its worth playing them there for a couple of matches to see if his game improves.
I doubt Agar has done it just to appease the player but to try and get the best out of him.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 15980 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jan 2006 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
May 2016 | Jun 2015 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote hullbg="hullbg"That to me is one of the reason he could make a good coach, players have favoured positions and play better usually in that favoured position. Wingers and centres are usually comfortable at either side of the pitch so if a player has expressed a favoured side to the coach surely its worth playing them there for a couple of matches to see if his game improves.
I doubt Agar has done it just to appease the player but to try and get the best out of him.'"
Personally I think the side has had a better balance with Yeamo on the right, and it appears to me that he can only pass right which is why he never gives it to Raynor.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Moderator | 36786 | Hull FC |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jul 2003 | 22 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | May 2023 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
Moderator
|
| Quote hullbg="hullbg"That to me is one of the reason he could make a good coach, players have favoured positions and play better usually in that favoured position. Wingers and centres are usually comfortable at either side of the pitch so if a player has expressed a favoured side to the coach surely its worth playing them there for a couple of matches to see if his game improves.
I doubt Agar has done it just to appease the player but to try and get the best out of him.'"
On the other hand, moving Hall to the left had given our most dangerous winger - Raynor - more and better quality service than he's had since joining the club. Moving Yeaman back was a backward step IMO.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 8157 | Hull FC |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Apr 2007 | 18 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Mar 2024 | Mar 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Thats what coaches are paid for to make the big decisions and the little decisions. Only time will tell if they are right or wrong.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 1438 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Apr 2006 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Sep 2012 | Sep 2012 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| I have serious concerns about Agar and Last at the helm of the team, is anyone else concerned or is it just me being paranoid? I'm not knocking either person here i just feel there is a distinct lack of experience (at the top level).
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Moderator | 8507 | Hull FC |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jan 2004 | 21 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
May 2025 | Feb 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
Moderator
|
| Quote Robbo4="Robbo4"My main concern about this situation is the familiarity the players will have with Agar and Last and the possiblity that we will just carry on where we left off. I'm quite prepared to give Rich my full backing here and really hope he can turn us into a successful side. Having said that I do have my doubts and worry that Rich has been too close to the action to perhaps be objective enough to make the touch decisions. Time will tell I suppose but for now I will reserve judgement and hope the board and Agar have got this right.'"
Maybe he has the respect of the players and will get the best from them and as professionals they should accept he is now the head coach.
The reason he has been given the job could be that in his meeting with the board he has outlined his plans for the future and is indeed prepared to be totally objective in his decisions regardless of how tough they maybe?
The above could be the reason he has been given the job, who knows.
All I know is that things can only get better.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 1438 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Apr 2006 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Sep 2012 | Sep 2012 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote chico's nose
Strong-running second rower
Joined: 20 Oct 2004
Posts: 450
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Posted:
Tue May 27, 2008 5:09 pm
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Got to say that I am not overly excited by this appointment. I feel that it is an indication that the board is doing things on the cheap, yet again. That said I will give Agar and the team my full support and wish them every success.
I suppose we will never know if Hull sounded out Folkes for the vacant job, but either way I feel that it is an opportunity missed. Agar has bags of potential, and every coach needs to be given a chance at some point, but with Folkes we would have had a tried and tested coach. If he comes over to the super league at some point I believe that he will be one of the most experienced coaches to every come to the league. And I think that is what we need right now. It is not every day a top coach with bags of experience comes on the market and I really think that we have missed the boat on this one.
I am also surprised people are happy just because the players like Agar. If I was on the board the thought of who the players may or may not like would not cross my mind. The players are obviously going to say they like him as it is a case of better the devil you know.
This is not a rant about Agar, as I do believe that he has the potential and will hopefully deliver the goods. But I do think that the board has yet again been short sighted with this appointment.
Here’s hoping that I am proved wrong and the board have made the right appointment.
'"

|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 1438 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Apr 2006 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Sep 2012 | Sep 2012 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote Kosh
Gold RLFANS Member
Joined: 31 Jul 2003
Posts: 15268
Location: Leafy Worcester, home of the Black Pear
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Posted:
Tue May 27, 2008 5:28 pm
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
hullbg wrote: That to me is one of the reason he could make a good coach, players have favoured positions and play better usually in that favoured position. Wingers and centres are usually comfortable at either side of the pitch so if a player has expressed a favoured side to the coach surely its worth playing them there for a couple of matches to see if his game improves.
I doubt Agar has done it just to appease the player but to try and get the best out of him.
On the other hand, moving Hall to the left had given our most dangerous winger - Raynor - more and better quality service than he's had since joining the club. Moving Yeaman back was a backward step IMO.
'"

|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Board Member | 3524 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Nov 2002 | 22 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Aug 2023 | Apr 2022 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Richard Agar is a young British Coach who has been groomed by Hull FC for this moment.
Why are people surprised ? When Kear went, Agar was not ready .
He now obviously feels he is ready. If an Aussie had come in he may of wanted Agar out . Hull must think highly of him.
I for one am pleased we have chosen the British option and not gone for the "panic" Big name Aussie. People moan and groan about GB being unable to compete internationally. They never will if the Brits are not given a chance . This is also what the Franchise era is about . Young British players and Coaches entering into the fray , instead of highly paid Aussies or New Zealanders milking Clubs for their retirement fund.
Hopefully Hetherington will give Agar the Finances to bolster his squad for 2009 .
On Sunday in defeat we played more Rugby than we had done all season. His style must differ from Sharp`s.
With R.Horne , Dykes , Motu , Whiting , King and Berrigan on the field we would have beaten Saints.
THE KING IS DEAD , LONG LIVE KING RICHARD !
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 8157 | Hull FC |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Apr 2007 | 18 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Mar 2024 | Mar 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| And pray tell how many times has Hall passed to Raynor this season? Most of Raynors tries come from kicks because of our inabilty to bring the backs into the game.
|
|
|
 |
|