Granted I am the only person being honest about what they hear, but believe me, it's not idle gossip, this comes from people I trust and respect, and if I am proven wrong then I apologise in advance.

McRae is ruining FC from within, he's cost us Manu and Turner and others may follow, Gentle isn't happy and has told AP as such.

As I say, if I am wrong I apologise, but having seen how McRae "operated" at Salford I think there is more than a shred of truth in it, why did Turner leave there in the first place?

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At what point was Slug Face certificated, I must have missed where he was a member of a professional body with various qualifications behind him.

You seem to live by a different set of rules to the rest of us!! You warn against idle speculation on the injuries thread yet indulge yourself on this one (just because you choose to believe your sources and no one else's). Until it becomes fact or you offer your source than it is idle gossip imo.

fair enough, but I tend to find questioning a professional medical practitioner a little different to questioning a media whore with a big ego.

As I have said, if I am wrong then I apologise in advance.

You keep saying that, then slagging McRae off a bit more.

And if either of them had been capable of staying fit, they wouldn't have left the NRL. Especially if the market then had been as it is now.

I have to say that your talk on this seems to be heavily living in the (albeit fairly recent) past, things have changed significantly in only the past 2 seasons and Chase is about as good a halfback as there is even remotely available to play in SL. IMO you're being seriously unrealistic about how good a 6 we can get, and if you seriously think we should turn our noses up at a player of Chase's ability if it costs over £100k then it's time you stopped being so sniffy about Richard Horne. If we want better, we'll have to pay for it (in the short term, at least), if you wouldn't be willing to, deal with what we've got.

in time we'll find out I guess

And in the meantime, we could dial back the personal insults a notch.

personal insults?

So you don't like him then?

I don't like the impact he is apparently having on the club, no.

Yet the only tangible evidence we've had since he's been back is Agar being given the shove, snagging Gentle, and subsequent Ellis capture. What a b*****d.

Well if you pop down to West Hull and catch O'Meley maybe he will clarify what Standee has posted as he has certainly not being shy about telling people exactly what Standee has posted

Towards McRae. Every time I've had dealings with him he's been a perfect gent. He was good for us in his last spell, and I've seen nothing other than your idle speculation to suggest that anything has changed this time around.