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So Tansey broke the club website while in Weir Bar with Burnett? Sounds fair enough to discipline him then

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blame tansey is the new blame agar

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Quote: Jake the Peg "We're not talking about elected members who abuse the public are we?'"


Dunno what you're talking about, but I'm referring to employees as you originally mentioned.

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Didn't your club announce preseason that they were leaving it up to the players whether it was announced if they were injured or not (and the extent of that injury), if so is this maybe the 1st instance of this coming up.

You'll be far too good for Quins this week, with or without Long/Tansey, I'd be shocked if you didn't rack up a decent score.

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Quote: barham red "Didn't your club announce preseason that they were leaving it up to the players whether it was announced if they were injured or not (and the extent of that injury), if so is this maybe the 1st instance of this coming up.

You'll be far too good for Quins this week, with or without Long/Tansey, I'd be shocked if you didn't rack up a decent score.'"


Didnt a Rovers supporter who regularly uses your site say this about your club last season and then watch a 10-40 defeat unfold ??
With or without Tansey there are no easy games this season !


But Thanks Im sure you will be far too strong for Castleford too with all their injuries etc. I would be absolutely gobsmacked if you didnt put 50 past them !!!

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Quote: barham red "Didn't your club announce preseason that they were leaving it up to the players whether it was announced if they were injured or not (and the extent of that injury), if so is this maybe the 1st instance of this coming up.

Quote: barham red "You'll be far too good for Quins this week, with or without Long/Tansey, I'd be shocked if you didn't rack up a decent score'"
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you playing mind games with us!!!!

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I don't see why the club can't just tell us that he has been dropped as a disciplinary measure, why not? Also why have all this secrecy last wekk by having Long in the sqaud.

I am more annoyed with Tansey than anyone else as our options in attack are even more limited now are two best attacking players are out.

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Quote: PAUL M "I don't see why the club can't just tell us that he has been dropped as a disciplinary measure, why not? Also why have all this secrecy last wekk by having Long in the sqaud.

I am more annoyed with Tansey than anyone else as our options in attack are even more limited now are two best attacking players are out.'"


I agree, we do not need the details.

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It's interesting to note that when people are slagging off the side and particularly the creative players that Fitzgibbon is getting no stick. Don't get me wrong his workrate does not deserve any but like I said at the start of the season, he will do the same job as Radford did at 13, an extra battering ram. People said I was wrong but so far he has not helped the halves out whatsover and imo he should be playing in the backrow with either Manu or Tickle and Washbrook should then be at 13 which would offer an extra pivot to go with Tansey, Horne and Long. This would mean that Lauaki, Tickle or Manu could miss out or we could just drop Houghton off the bench and have two backrows and two props on the bench.

Either way the 13 role from last year has not changed despite everybody saying Fitzgibbon would add more. yes he adds more quality in the work he does but it's the same role.

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Quote: PAUL M "It's interesting to note that when people are slagging off the side and particularly the creative players that Fitzgibbon is getting no stick. Don't get me wrong his workrate does not deserve any but like I said at the start of the season, he will do the same job as Radford did at 13, an extra battering ram. People said I was wrong but so far he has not helped the halves out whatsover and imo he should be playing in the backrow with either Manu or Tickle and Washbrook should then be at 13 which would offer an extra pivot to go with Tansey, Horne and Long. This would mean that Lauaki, Tickle or Manu could miss out or we could just drop Houghton off the bench and have two backrows and two props on the bench.

Either way the 13 role from last year has not changed despite everybody saying Fitzgibbon would add more. yes he adds more quality in the work he does but it's the same role.'"


Agar clearly likes to use the 13 role as an extra forward and not an extra pivot, the free role of 13 certainly has helped with our defensvie game, I am hoping to see some off-loads from Fitz..But like you I prefare the 13 to run as an extra pivot.

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Quote: PAUL M "It's interesting to note that when people are slagging off the side and particularly the creative players that Fitzgibbon is getting no stick. Don't get me wrong his workrate does not deserve any but like I said at the start of the season, he will do the same job as Radford did at 13, an extra battering ram. People said I was wrong but so far he has not helped the halves out whatsover and imo he should be playing in the backrow with either Manu or Tickle and Washbrook should then be at 13 which would offer an extra pivot to go with Tansey, Horne and Long. This would mean that Lauaki, Tickle or Manu could miss out or we could just drop Houghton off the bench and have two backrows and two props on the bench.

Either way the 13 role from last year has not changed despite everybody saying Fitzgibbon would add more. yes he adds more quality in the work he does but it's the same role.'"


I'm not sure how many people thought Fitz would come in and start spraying the ball around from loose man. Don't remember too many suggesting he would be the ultimate ball player ala Jason Smith and alike. What he has done is massively improve the quality of the pack with his outstanding work rate and quality in everything he does do. I would say that he has helped out the halves - his dummy running and the lines he runs are top quality with Manu's try at Saints being a good example.

The player that most concerns me is Washbrook. Admittedly he hasn't played at loose man and has only played one game this season, but this idea that he can go into loose man and become the extra ball playing pivot lacks any evidence to back it up. Another good chance to impress on Sunday passed him by. When is he going to take his chance and put in a match winning MOM performance ? My point is that he hasn't shown enough to suggest he can be the ball playing 13 even if we decided to play with one.

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I may take Horney into the Wier tonight, wonder if Agar would have the bottle to drop him too!?

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The player that most concerns me is Washbrook. Admittedly he hasn't played at loose man and has only played one game this season, but this idea that he can go into loose man and become the extra ball playing pivot lacks any evidence to back it up. Another good chance to impress on Sunday passed him by. When is he going to take his chance and put in a match winning MOM performance ? My point is that he hasn't shown enough to suggest he can be the ball playing 13 even if we decided to play with one.'"
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I was hoping Washbrook would take his chance on Sunday and put in a performance which would make it hard to drop him. That said if the team around him are not firing I guess it is difficult for him to come in and standout.

I think there has been alot of over reactions on here this week particularly aimed at certain players. The brother mentioned that Hull had been 'flat' in training last week and to some extent I am not surprised. To have started the season by playing both Saints away and then the Giants must have been physically and mentally very demanding so a natural drop in intensity was on the cards. I liken our first 2 games to playing a semi final or final teams always struggle the week after and in hindsight a change or 2 would probably have freshened up the whole squad at the Crusaders.

The important part is how we respond to this dip in performance against the Quins on Friday. We set very high standards in the first 2 games now we need to find some consistency.
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I was hoping Washbrook would take his chance on Sunday and put in a performance which would make it hard to drop him. That said if the team around him are not firing I guess it is difficult for him to come in and standout.

I think there has been alot of over reactions on here this week particularly aimed at certain players. The brother mentioned that Hull had been 'flat' in training last week and to some extent I am not surprised. To have started the season by playing both Saints away and then the Giants must have been physically and mentally very demanding so a natural drop in intensity was on the cards. I liken our first 2 games to playing a semi final or final teams always struggle the week after and in hindsight a change or 2 would probably have freshened up the whole squad at the Crusaders.

The important part is how we respond to this dip in performance against the Quins on Friday. We set very high standards in the first 2 games now we need to find some consistency.

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This is a good game for Calderwood to come back into........no ball players so he will have absolutely fluff all to do in attack......lets hope his defence is upto scratch. icon_biggrin.gifEPRESSED:

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Quote: MR BOJANGLES "Didnt a Rovers supporter who regularly uses your site say this about your club last season and then watch a 10-40 defeat unfold ??
With or without Tansey there are no easy games this season !


But Thanks Im sure you will be far too strong for Castleford too with all their injuries etc. I would be absolutely gobsmacked if you didnt put 50 past them !!!'"


Bit touchy aren't we..... I was only having an opinion and trying to have a bit of dialogue but guess thats not allowed. I always thought you're game at crusaders would be a tough one, they will not be the worst team in the comp this year and you wont be the only team to come unstuck over there.

My point was that quins have seemed to have been impacted by a lot of injuries and look a pretty weak side at the moment. there only win coming against a very depleated Cats side that had a man sent off and had had a few on the team locked up the weekend before. FC still look far too strong a team for a quins side, especially at home and with any complacency being removed last week.

If you really think we'll beat cas then get some cash on us, cos if we play like we did on Sunday I'd get a £10 on us getting nilled again, should be some value in it.

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