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I think a lot of this starts from I don’t like Grix? Then find reasons to back it up. I might be wrong. He’s got playing better he’s improved the defence massively. Yes Smith won an equal amount of games but that’s a false comparison as everyone knows. The Houghton thing whilst you could criticise it it shows a human side. People have been wondering why Balmforth wasn’t playing and to his credit Grix refrained from saying why. Damned if you do damned if you don’t. Then there is crediting others for our improvement - he’s the head coach! I say all this as someone has to defend him. Tony Smith is a good resource for him at the moment but Grix makes the decision now. He’s done ok. Don’t get the negativity after our early season poop?

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Grix was probably in the wrong place at the wrong time, to take up the poison chalice.

The guy seems pretty honourable to me, if a little blunt, and anyone taking that role in the mess we were in was going to cop it, with hindsight Frannie Cummins would probably have been a better choice, his communication and knowledge of the game certainly comes across well.

But both inexperienced in this high pressure position, and all in all, Grix has steadied the ship, and in very difficult circumstances achieved as much as he could.

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Quote: TnT "I think a lot of this starts from I don’t like Grix? Then find reasons to back it up. I might be wrong. He’s got playing better he’s improved the defence massively. Yes Smith won an equal amount of games but that’s a false comparison as everyone knows. The Houghton thing whilst you could criticise it it shows a human side. People have been wondering why Balmforth wasn’t playing and to his credit Grix refrained from saying why. Damned if you do damned if you don’t. Then there is crediting others for our improvement - he’s the head coach! I say all this as someone has to defend him. Tony Smith is a good resource for him at the moment but Grix makes the decision now. He’s done ok. Don’t get the negativity after our early season poop?'"


It’s not a case of trying to find reasons to back it up.He was part of a coaching team that was responsible for some awful performances and batterings and the head coach and assistant left yet he stayed…..in football if the manager gets the sack,all his back room staff go as well so why didn’t he?.Then his continuous talking of Balmforths performances or none performances,seemed as though it was “well Tony didn’t like him so I don’t”,still in contact asking Smiths advice,who got us in this mess is equally baffling.He has had better players at his disposal and may have stop the batterings for now but still have big teams to play.He hasn’t convinced me at all and I still say he is out of his depth and a lot may be down to Cummins and Ellis but we can all have our opinions and is good to have a reasonable debate over it.

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Quote: The games afoot "It’s not a case of trying to find reasons to back it up.He was part of a coaching team that was responsible for some awful performances and batterings and the head coach and assistant left yet he stayed…..in football if the manager gets the sack,all his back room staff go as well so why didn’t he?.Then his continuous talking of Balmforths performances or none performances,seemed as though it was “well Tony didn’t like him so I don’t”,still in contact asking Smiths advice,who got us in this mess is equally baffling.He has had better players at his disposal and may have stop the batterings for now but still have big teams to play.He hasn’t convinced me at all and I still say he is out of his depth and a lot may be down to Cummins and Ellis but we can all have our opinions and is good to have a reasonable debate over it.'"


What has happened at Hull following the departure of Smith seems pretty typical for when a head coach/manager leaves mid-season. Someone stepping up on an interim basis. If you’d got rid of all your back room staff, you’d have had no backroom staff. There aren’t many examples of people going into clubs from outside on an interim basis. Rangnick at Manchester United, and probably a few others. But the PL is a world away financially and has much bigger pool of candidates - most of whom won’t be being asked to chuck in a job as an electrician or PE teacher or whatever.

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Quote: The games afoot "It’s not a case of trying to find reasons to back it up.He was part of a coaching team that was responsible for some awful performances and batterings and the head coach and assistant left yet he stayed…..in football if the manager gets the sack,all his back room staff go as well so why didn’t he?.Then his continuous talking of Balmforths performances or none performances,seemed as though it was “well Tony didn’t like him so I don’t”,still in contact asking Smiths advice,who got us in this mess is equally baffling.He has had better players at his disposal and may have stop the batterings for now but still have big teams to play.He hasn’t convinced me at all and I still say he is out of his depth and a lot may be down to Cummins and Ellis but we can all have our opinions and is good to have a reasonable debate over it.'"

Grix had only been here a number of months, so in my opinion was rightly given a bit longer to prove himself. I think getting rid of him there and then would have been quite harsh on him especially if he had mainly just been working with the team in a way that he was directed to by Smith.
Now what Grix has done and his performance since been given control is a different matter. If his time as interim head coach isn't up to the clubs expected standard then they will deal with it.
He's had an awful lot to deal with in his time as interim coach. A team that wasn't properly prepper for the season in terms of fitness, skill, conditioning. Plenty of players, some high earners, leaving the club. Plenty of new faces coming into the club. A team very low on confidence with a fan base that was the most frustrated in the league and pretty much ready to turn on the team every game as soon as the first try gets conceded. All this while knowing that most likely his future at rhe club was a serious doubt, certainly as a head coach, but possibly even as an assistant.

He's made some bad choices with team selections and I question some of his remarks in the media, bit I'm still glad he was given the chance to show what he can do. We've got our new head coach signed up and it's now up to him to decide who he wants by his side, and if he choose one of those men to be Grix then so be it.

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Good to read how involved Cartwright is getting already.

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Anyone copy and paste the article as it stops halfway down for me

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Sounds very exciting, Pearson referencing us having a very strong spine next season, I can only imagine the final marquee spot is going on a full back, no names mentioned as of yet, hopefully sailor or similar with Cartwrights connections.

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"we've signed 6 or 7 for next year" good to see Adam being up on the detail

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Quote: Irregs#16 "Anyone copy and paste the article as it stops halfway down for me'"


Here you go.....

Hull FC owner Adam Pearson has expressed his excitement over two potential signings from the NRL, one of whom could fill the club's final marquee player spot.

Director of rugby Richie Myler and incoming head coach John Cartwright have held talks with the unnamed players, who are regulars in the competition Down Under.

 

Hull have already confirmed the signings of John Asiata, Jordan Abdull and Amir Bourouh, while Leigh Leopards trio Ed Chamberlain, Zak Hardaker and Oliver Holmes are also on their way to the MKM Stadium.

 

Asiata and Jake Trueman take up two of Hull's marquee spots, leaving a third available as the club look to round off their recruitment for 2025.

 

"We've signed six or seven already for next year," Pearson told The Yorkshire Post.

 

"We'll probably have two marquee players next season, maybe a third.

 

"There's a couple of very exciting potential signings on the horizon. If Richie and John pull those signings off, we'll have a very exciting squad and a really, really strong spine for next season.

 

"John and Richie are talking daily. A lot of the targets are players John has coached over the last five to seven years so he's got a really good handle on the personality and attributes of the player.

 

"In the past, we've used an Australian scout or football manager over there for references or recommendations but it feels a lot safer having somebody who has actually had these players in their camp before."

 

Hull have two quota spots available after seeing several overseas players move on in the first half of the year.

 

Nu Brown and Franklin Pele departed just months into their contracts, while fellow off-season recruit Jayden Okunbor recently spent time on loan with Championship club Bradford Bulls.

 

Tex Hoy also left Hull early before finding a new home at Castleford Tigers.

 

"We've had to look at recruitment very, very seriously," added Pearson.

 

"We've invested a significant amount in new software, a database that allows us to track every player in the world on a far more detailed basis.

 

"Richie has been key in bringing in that system, which is used by two or three Super League clubs.

 

"These players we're looking at are very much top of the analysis charts worldwide. They're good players."

 

In recent months, Hull have been in discussions with a number of potential investors to give the club an injection of capital.

 

Pearson, who is combining the roles of chairman and chief executive following the recent departure of James Clark, has stressed that those conversations are ongoing.

 

"We're still looking for investment," he said.

 

"We feel as though we're getting close. It's always been my priority to have that in place by the end of the season. That's still ongoing and is looking positive but no deal is a deal until it's done.

 

"I'm trying to keep my options open to ensure a deal is in place by the end of the season."

 

Wealthy businessman Andrew Thirkill has been linked with a stake in the club since Myler's arrival in April.

 

Thirkill is the father of Myler’s partner and currently holds the role of president at Leeds Rhinos.

 

"At this stage, I'm not going to get involved in discussing individuals," added Pearson.

 

"It's suffice to say that behind the scenes things are moving along with interested parties.

 

"On the basis of confidentiality, that's about as much as I can say."

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Been very very coy re the investment I think.

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Investment will be done, since the rumoured investment, we have sacked two coaches, paid off 3 players, probably a couple more will be paid off.

Gone from 1 to probably 3 marquee players.

Think we really need to more statement signings, a full back (ideally who can play 6) and a centre would be ideal.

Add in another forward, think we could have a squad to move forward.

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Quote: Yippee try yay "hopefully sailor or similar with Cartwrights connections.'"


Could be, Pearson does say in that article that their specifically looking at players that Cartwright has worked with in the past.

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Quote: K-Diddy "Could be, Pearson does say in that article that their specifically looking at players that Cartwright has worked with in the past.'"


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