it's a commercial discussion, so they wouldn't release any details under FOI.

He's talking about the private meeting between Cllrs Geraghty and Bayes, three senior council officers and the Allam duo. And, it would appear, Blind Uncle Harry as notetaker/fly/tealady. You know, the one after which Allam Snr swore that his final word on the subject had been uttered.

A Freedom of Information Act application should be valid and would take 28 days IIRC.

Surely it would only become a commercial discussion if someone presented a commercial proposal? You'd struggle to fit Allam's Woodbine packet in that criterion.

Mind you, we are getting into the pantomime season

true, it would maybe be classed as a private meeting, either way we'll never find out details.

to be honest, I'd find a transcript of a meeting between Tinkerbell and Captain Hook more believeable.

Oooh. Do you thing they're the shy senior sports people smiling at Allam out of one side of their head, and the council from the other?

It shows the limit of your knowledge if you have to resort to inventing claims. I've never claimed to have been at the meeting, I simply pointed out the gaping holes in some peoples take on events.

Nice to see the first steps of acknowledging they've handled things badly, but they still can't resist childish barbs just to make sure talks don't go ahead. Any wonder Siemens are looking elsewhere?

And your evidence for that claim is???

Allam's in the paper slating them very frequently. If you compare the column inches afforded to the council's viewpoint vs that of Mr Allam, there's no contest. Every reason for them to feel a bit peeved at how this whole thing has been portrayed. Still, I think this is a very reasonable position for the council to take. They've promised a referendum if there is a proposition put forward by Mr Allam with sufficient detail and clarity for people to vote on. They've made the first move. Well done to them. Let's see what full and swift reciprocation we get now - this will surely be forthcoming imminently if the Sporting Village gift plans and funding are as robust, detailed and transparent as claimed.

siemens are looking elsewhere due to central government reducing their financial support. I've no love for anything labour but you can't lay that one at the council's door

Quote: Jake the Peg "siemens are looking elsewhere due to central government reducing their financial support. I've no love for anything labour but you can't lay that one at the council's door'" Siemens were looking at the BAE site at Brough earlier this week. I guess Harry regards East Yorkshire as "elsewhere" and doesn't think people can travel from Hull to Brough to go to work. Only today Cameron said he thought there was no reason to think Siemens would not come to Hull. www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Cameron- ... story.html

Quote: Jake the Peg "siemens are looking elsewhere due to central government reducing their financial support. I've no love for anything labour but you can't lay that one at the council's door'" Siemens were looking at the BAE site at Brough earlier this week. I guess Harry regards East Yorkshire as "elsewhere" and doesn't think people can travel from Hull to Brough to go to work. Only today Cameron said he thought there was no reason to think Siemens would not come to Hull. www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Cameron- ... story.html

The paper ask a question and write a reply, which is not necessarily the same as what you put.

As for the Council, by accident or design, they're still going out of their way to make sure the best deal isn't bargained for. What would be wrong with sitting around a table with an open mind instead of this request for one prescriptive scheme?

A referendum's never going to happen, what would the vote be on? All or nothing? With certain covenants and caveats?

I'm sure even the one eyed types on here can see how that's not the most productive of options.

Quote: Smiggs "Siemans have never shown the slightest interest in the BAe site at Brough, however they are interested in the workforce.'" www.thisishullandeastriding.co.u ... story.html

Quote: Smiggs "Siemans have never shown the slightest interest in the BAe site at Brough, however they are interested in the workforce.'" www.thisishullandeastriding.co.u ... story.html

I work at Bae and I know the facts not the bollox in the local press. They are not interested in the site and never have been believe me.