I agree that a good half could have done everything you said or at least tried to. Emphasis on tried. With the players we had out there I think it would be more a case of tried than actually achieved. You could have the best half back in the world in our team right now and I'd bet they'd still look a shambles in certain games.

Getting/developing a good half back is part of the equation to improving us but it's certainly not the actual answer IMO.

Why does it need to be a halfback to do this? Why couldn't Ellis instruct this type of game plan? Your answer is to simplistic. We capitulated in defence once we'd had the couple of scuffles, Talanoa throwing the ball away was criminal.

We were 16-0 up after 60 mins. Arguably we might have been more with better playmaking. The forwards set enough of a platform on Sunday to win the game but we didn't close the game out.

The players who do the 'game management' tend to be half backs. No mystery there. Ellis leads by example which is what good forwards do.

Our forwards got bossed all game. We got piggy backed up the field by the ref and couldn't stop Moore offloading the ball. Bowden, Paea, Thompson and Tuson were terrible.

I agree to an extent, but surely as our captain and a player who has been there and done it all, he could see what was in the offing and instruct his team accordingly. Sure, he can't stop other forwards bouncing off tackles, or prevent a winger from throwing a ball into touch, but neither can a halfback.

That's not game management, it's fecking common sense. Ellis or anybody else, even me and you, could see that's what needed to happen. To an extent it did, we just couldn't defend.

Didn't see it that way at all.

Only Feka made any real impact.

Christ, watching the game back (half p!ssed) there were some seriously missed tackles the last 25 mins.
Stilts was stood in the West central tunnel for the last 10 mins.
He had a face like thunder.

Yes, but the best coaches get more good performances than bad and that isn't happening at Hull currently. Like you, I don't know how much of this is down to radford but as he has never proven capable of coaching a side which perform consistently well, we can't rule out that it's down to him.

I'd take smith any day of the week over radford. i know someone who was involved at leeds when smith was there and the current culture at headingley was very much started by smith. I'd also take his record at wire over any Hull coach since bunting.

mcdermott I'm unsure about. I think he dropped on a great group of players and culture at leeds but he has had plenty of detractors amongst leeds fans along the way but a group who know when and how to win the big games which is what has seen them through in recent seasons.

The jury is out on radford for me. Far too early to say whether he'll go on to be a good coach or not or whether he's doing a good or an awful job at Hull.

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The stats don't back you up. They couldn't get in our half for the first 10 mins of the second half.

Good post.

Don't disagree.