If changing the coach won't make much difference, and changing the players clearly isn't making much difference, what options are left? Concede defeat and chuck it in, or accept being rubbish and try not to be bothered by it?

Maybe that's where the Port and lemon comes in - helps dull the pain!

The DG was just a way to underline Leeds dominance , Leeds seem to go for it more than other teams when they are well ahead.

it's a way of saying FU, we don't even need to score tries now, we're in control here & you're done for the night. What little fight a team has something like that can have an impact to the opposition on the receiving end. it's the final insult/slap in the face tbh.

How are we looking today koshy?

Nonsense - as I've said countless times Radford can leave today for all I care. What part of that sentence is proving difficult for you to comprehend ?

What I will do is give credit where it's due and criticise where necessary. You only do the latter - why is that ? Where was your praise of Radford after the Hudds and Wire performances ? Or is it only shambolic performances like the 40 mins last night that can be attributed to the coaching ? As for the youngsters thing we're miles behind in player development and talent. Despite some serious investment I'm yet to be convinced that we're getting any better at it.

Radford's biggest mistake this season so far is his squad strength at prop forward. It seems clear that Ellis will have to move inside and Thompson play in his place in the left second row. It's a shame we couldn't get Taylor for this season when we tried to because Green and Bowden are not taking their opportunities and when injuries hit we've nothing left as last night's bench clearly illustrated.

Well a stunning performance from him shows he should be no where near the side.

I'm sure the club apologists will still say hes better than Sa, Tala & Yeaman

Thought he was no worse or better than most. Tackled well first half and didn't get any running chances.

Was he better or worse than anyone else last night.

On that basis its Ellis and possibly Talanoa against Wigan then

so be it, do we have a chance with all 17 on the pitch at same time?


no

Ellis and Pryce. Maybe Shaul and Lineham.

Talanoa was pretty awful last night.

Yup, thought the Binman very poor last night.
Westerman looked like he was running in quicksand as well that second half.

Watched the match again.Westerman did a lot of tackling and looked cream crackered. The bench was poor IMO Turgat and abdull where poor feka did OK first stint and Rankin likewise. Thought Bowden in his first stint did really well but like the rest of the team just didn't turn up 2nd half. Still in shock at that 2nd half display

got out of hospital this afternoon,listened to the match on my laptop,wife asked me she should phone for an ambulance to take me back.