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Quote: Young Faithfull "Another dig at Agar whats the man supposed to do in that situation in sure every coach Maguire and Smith included would do the same in his position.'"


I'm not sure what you're trying to say but I doubt the forwards would be doing significantly less work because the half backs were different. We play a no frills, forward orientated game no matter who is at half back

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Quote: Amadeo Avogadro "No, but they do take care of the kicking game and organise the attack so there's fewer handling errors.'"


Doesn't really mean less work for the forwards though does it?

We didn't make too many errors tonight. Kicking game was shocking but it has been for 3 years now

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Quote: Jake the Peg "I'm not sure what you're trying to say but I doubt the forwards would be doing significantly less work because the half backs were different. We play a no frills, forward orientated game no matter who is at half back'"


What im saying is that with halfbacks we wouldent of had to play a 5 drives and a kick game it would of been 3 to 4 drives then spread it out wide but with no half backs we play a percentage game were its 5 drives then a kick now if we had said half backs and spread it out more often then the forwards would have to take 1-2 less drives a set on average meaning less work so then they can play longer minutes and will not tire as fast.

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Quote: Jake the Peg "I'm not sure what you're trying to say but I doubt the forwards would be doing significantly less work because the half backs were different. We play a no frills, forward orientated game no matter who is at half back'"

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Quality experienced h/backs make the game a lot easier for forwards...they organise,k they shift the ball out wide etc etc

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Quote: berrigans bitch "

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Unlkess they're playing for Hull icon_lol.gif

Face it. agar has built his squad around a big pack of forwards and we've played a forward dominated game all season. We played with 5 props tonight so there was plenty of rotation and we shouldn't have been out on our feet as we wre IMO. wire looked much fitter than us

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Unlkess they're playing for Hull
Very clever man that Agar, who would have thought we would be in this position 'eh icon_wink.gif

H/backs to return at the business end, the mans a genius icon_cool.gif icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: Jake the Peg "icon_eek.gif

Unlkess they're playing for Hull
Agreed.

Hull play very tight to the ruck and the only time they seem to get any width is from kicks to the corner.

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Quote: berrigans bitch "Very clever man that Agar, who would have thought we would be in this position 'eh
If he wins a couple of play off games I might have to agree with you. Of course, if he doesn't then I'm sure you'll be agreeing with me

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Quote: Gordon Gekko "Agreed.

Hull play very tight to the ruck and the only time they seem to get any width is from kicks to the corner.'"


Due to our lack of backs...You didn't have to know your rugby tonight it was always going to go down the middle,

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Quote: Jake the Peg "Doesn't really mean less work for the forwards though does it?'"


A good kicking game and fewer handling errors doesn't make less work for the forwards? Really?

Quote: Jake the Peg "We didn't make too many errors tonight. '"


The first half was good. 88% completion, I think. We seemed to come up with a few more in the second and some daft penalties from trying to slow the game down.

Quote: Jake the Peg "Kicking game was shocking but it has been for 3 years now'"


Largely because we haven't had any decent halfbacks for three years, or when we have, they've been out injured for much of the time.

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i think we have made good strides this season,but i still dont think we are good enough to take on the top 4 teams away.the lack of our main halfbacks,does make a difference.its been 3 years now with no settled halfback combination.i think hull can beat leeds in a fortnight,with long and horne back,but i still think hulls threequarter line up could be a weakness.

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Quote: Jake the Peg "If he wins a couple of play off games I might have to agree with you. Of course, if he doesn't then I'm sure you'll be agreeing with me'"


Not a case of who is right or who is wrong, people look for different things and see different things in a agme, you often raise some very valid points but my issue is you are very negative in your approach.

I believe we will do OK (my heart forces this icon_biggrin.gif )..Realistically I hope to win at least 1 play-off game and I will view that as progression.

My heart says we will lift the trophy!

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As the season has progressed it has become blatantly obviously that we need to strengthen the half back positions as priority next year.

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Thought Berrigans kicking game was just plain awful tonight, he tried hard but didnt really have any support and we just gave the ball away too cheaply.

Berrigans kick one minute before halftime was too early and didn't look like the rest of team knew it was going to happen.

He tried hard but we will play so much better once Long plays.

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Quote: Amadeo Avogadro "A good kicking game and fewer handling errors doesn't make less work for the forwards? Really?

The first half was good. 88% completion, I think. We seemed to come up with a few more in the second and some daft penalties from trying to slow the game down.

Largely because we haven't had any decent halfbacks for three years, or when we have, they've been out injured for much of the time.'"


A good kicking game doesn't necessarily mean less work, just likely to be in a different part of the field. Surely a forward dominated game is likely to result in less errors than an expansive one

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