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| Quote: TnT "There are a lot of players who carry a little weight. There is no evidence to suggest his injury record is weight related. I think Abdull will end up a loose forward then people will be less critical of his stature. Again the pessimists are criticising before the player has started back with us which is their right but misery never won anything.'"
He doesn't have the fitness or workmate to play 13. Look at him compared to asiata. Chalk and cheese
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| Quote: Mr. Zucchini Head "Quote: Mr. Zucchini Head "There’s still Okunbor and Pele to decide on with both shipped out on loan which just shows how farcical the recruitment has been when we are desperate for players yet 2 quota players are shipped out on loan. .'"
I've not yet given up on Pele. He has a lot to work on, but we have seen glimpses that he can be a real handful. Maybe a good coaching staff can get him up to scratch. Okunbor on the other hand has shown nothing. I would like to see him get a run in the backline at least once before we call it a day with him though. Everything I've seen points to him being better suited to that than the second row.'"
In regards to Pele me neither and hopefully his spell on loan will get his fitness levels up and can reach his potential here. I'm hoping that Cartwright sorts out the whole backroom set up prior to his arrival as it would seem from the outside its all a bit soft in the Hull FC camp.
For me Okunbor just looks like a fish out of water and sadly for a quota a player he just hasn't shown anything to suggest he is worth taking up a quota spot.
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| Quote: Ellam "Quote: Ellam "This may be a bit radical and a bit controversial….why don’t we wait and see what Cartwright can do with him in the off-season and see how he goes before we slag him off….as for the weight thing,think it’s just crass remarks see that social media has problems with trolls and bullies praying on peoples body sizes,but just seems as though it’s fair game on here to say what you want'"
Stop being positive please, we are only allowed to slate every signing and everything the club does plus we have to keep hammering the point about slowest backline, slowest team blah blah blah, no more positivity or you will be removed from the forum, the coaches on here all know best.'"
I think the signings so far are an improvement on what we currently have but then again that's not difficult in all honesty. I think Abdul is a decent signing in terms of his ability as he's a very good player but as I said in an earlier post I would be underwhelmed if as club the intention is to go with Trueman & Abdul as first choice halves simply based on the injury records of both players over the past few seasons. The odds of both hitting 50% of games together aren't great which is why there is probably some concern amongst the fans and quite rightly, as we have been here so many times before it's untrue.
I don't think that is lost on Myler either and I'm pretty sure very few Coaches would come to a club in our state unless he'd had some assurances in regards squad rebuild.
It's still early days and no doubt lots of decisions yet to be made.
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| Quote: bonaire "Looks to me Chris that our recruitment in the backs apart from probably bringing in another centre is done so where is the lack of pace to be addressed.
its the backs and halves we need the pace and the power and size in the forwards.
Everyone keeps saying lets wait for the final recruitment to be done but thats clutching at straws in hope because Asiata apart whats coming in at the moment is totally underwhelming and second rate'"
I'm pretty sure you are wrong, we are looking for another winger (possible) 2, a centre and possible a fullback.
Also the FB can play 6 too, so gives us options.
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| Abdul has played 10 out of 12 games this season. He’s missed 1 against Rovers due to loan rules and 1 through a niggle. We’ll see how he goes for the rest of the season. Everyone would’ve loved us signing Tom Johnstone but he has a worth injury history before he went to Catalans.
Abdul has come out and said that he didn’t really have a preseason this season as he was on the out with HKR and got to Catalan late. Catalan have then also put him on a specific, planned Load/Bulk to allow him to stop recurring injuries, improvement strength through movements.
Should this work, we can cut him down in preseason and benefit from the work Catalan have done reducing his injury susceptibility.
Theres positives and negatives for every signing yet a lot of our fans look exclusively at the negatives.
If Truey and Abdul pick up niggles it will allow Charles to get some exposure which is essential.
We still have 2-3 quota spots to play with depending if Satae is signed. Hookers & backrow/centre.
Feel like Corey Paix will follow Cartwright and would be a very good signing for us
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| Quote: Hullrealist "Abdul has played 10 out of 12 games this season. He’s missed 1 against Rovers due to loan rules and 1 through a niggle. We’ll see how he goes for the rest of the season. Everyone would’ve loved us signing Tom Johnstone but he has a worth injury history before he went to Catalans.
Abdul has come out and said that he didn’t really have a preseason this season as he was on the out with HKR and got to Catalan late. Catalan have then also put him on a specific, planned Load/Bulk to allow him to stop recurring injuries, improvement strength through movements.
Should this work, we can cut him down in preseason and benefit from the work Catalan have done reducing his injury susceptibility.
Theres positives and negatives for every signing yet a lot of our fans look exclusively at the negatives.
If Truey and Abdul pick up niggles it will allow Charles to get some exposure which is essential.
We still have 2-3 quota spots to play with depending if Satae is signed. Hookers & backrow/centre.
Feel like Corey Paix will follow Cartwright and would be a very good signing for us'"
Good positive post,
Think we will have 3/4 quota spots, fully expect Pele or Sao to go if we are signing Satae.
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Gives us 4 quota spots to play with, should we be able to sign Whitehead or Bateman, gives us some real flexibility how we use those spots, one has to be a and a hooker. Maybe that's why we are looking at sailor who can alos play 6.
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| A very good point above regarding lack of pre season for Abdull, can’t underestimate the impact not having a proper pre season can have on a player. He’s had his issues off the pitch which would be enough to spin any persons head all over.
We’re signing a British half who starts for one of the top 4 teams in the league on a weekly basis, a player that can kick a team to death and would be a good balance with our other half back. anywhere else it would be seen as a master stoke but for some at hull it’s seen as a disaster. And while I do understand some reservations over his fitness it’s fair to say we have a coach who will do everything they can to get him in the best shape possible.
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| Quote: Dave K. "I'm pretty sure you are wrong, we are looking for another winger (possible) 2, a centre and possible a fullback.
Also the FB can play 6 too, so gives us options.'"
I agree with bonaire that we look like there's going to be a lack of pace in the three quarters that's why we desperately need a FB with pace.
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| Quote: Dave K. "Good positive post,
Think we will have 3/4 quota spots, fully expect Pele or Sao to go if we are signing Satae.
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Gives us 4 quota spots to play with, should we be able to sign Whitehead or Bateman, gives us some real flexibility how we use those spots, one has to be a Centre and a hooker. Maybe that's why we are looking at sailor who can alos play 6.'"
I'd like another hooker, centre and back row possibly a 1/6(Sailor)
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "He doesn't have the fitness or workmate to play 13. Look at him compared to asiata. Chalk and cheese'"
Completely different game now. A LF years ago was a ball player now he's more of a third middle.
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| Let's face it , it is very unlikely that JA will attain the required fitness level but definitely worth a punt at 50k on the salary cap.
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| I suppose a risk is Abdul struggles to meet the level of fitness Cartwright wants, he gets dropped from the first team and gets shipped out to York on loan and we end up without a recognised 7 again, derailing our season.
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| Quote: Steve0 "I suppose a risk is Abdul struggles to meet the level of fitness Cartwright wants, he gets dropped from the first team and gets shipped out to York on loan and we end up without a recognised 7 again, derailing our season.'"
What if we signed Clifford again and he breaks his leg pre season. As another poster has said, Abdul had a very disrupted pre season due to off field issues and has only missed one game this season, which is better than justvabout every player in our squad.
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| Quote: Marcus's Bicycle "Completely different game now. A LF years ago was a ball player now he's more of a third middle.'"
Third middle might not have been the best choice of words replying to JTP original post
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| I think people are also forgetting by the time the investment came though and Smith went, alot if the good domestic players were gone. I think our domestic signings have been ok.
The key is the quality of quota players we sign, we need 7 the quality of Ese Ese or better.
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