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| Quote: Dave K. "I think you have, I don't think he was a liability, he just had a weakness that needed addressing, much like Yeaman has with his attacking play, but it's too late now.
I'd love us to sign Crooks back next year.'"
So you're saying play Crooks despite his weaknesses, but not Yeaman because of his.
If Crooks was showing no sign of improvement, or just wanted to play in Aus, he became a "liability", although that word is a bit strong, to be fair.
I'd have Crooks in every week, but I'm not sure whether we'd now be top, or still struggling.
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| What quality player will want to sign for a Championship Club ?
If we don't start winning soon, that could be where Hull FC are heading !!
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Quote: Jake the Peg "I'd rather sign shillington than rapira but seems he is heading to the dobbins.
When was the last time one of our management team went out to oz to speak to players and their agents?'"
www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-leag ... um=twitter
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Quote: Jake the Peg "I'd rather sign shillington than rapira but seems he is heading to the dobbins.
When was the last time one of our management team went out to oz to speak to players and their agents?'"
www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-leag ... um=twitter
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| Quote: ccs "What don't you agree with? Dropping Yeaman is a defensive risk, I didn't say it wasn't worth taking, but it's a risk nevertheless.
And Crooks defence was the main reason he became a liability, or have I got that wrong as well?
If Sa was fit then it would be a much easier decision, but Talanoa is hardly going to add flair, Rankin isn't really a centre, and that leaves Logan, who might do ok, but it's a bit of a risk for his development, and for the team as a whole.'"
You never actually said that it's not a risk worth taking, but you were clearly suggesting we are better off with Yeaman than taking a risk, I disagree. By extension you are also defending the decision to freeze Crooks out and let him leave.
Crooks wasn't a liability in defence. He wasn't a good defender and its an area he has to address to take his game to the next level, but teams were hardly running in one try after another down his side.
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| Quote: ccs "So you're saying play Crooks despite his weaknesses, but not Yeaman because of his.
If Crooks was showing no sign of improvement, or just wanted to play in Aus, he became a "liability", although that word is a bit strong, to be fair.
I'd have Crooks in every week, but I'm not sure whether we'd now be top, or still struggling.'"
Yes, because I think with good coaching Crooks could develop and improve his weakness, too late for Yeaman.
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| Presumably Crooks will be coached at the highest level in Aus so it will be interesting to see how his career develops over there.
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| Quote: Mr. Zucchini Head "You never actually said that it's not a risk worth taking, but you were clearly suggesting we are better off with Yeaman than taking a risk, I disagree. By extension you are also defending the decision to freeze Crooks out and let him leave.
Crooks wasn't a liability in defence. He wasn't a good defender and its an area he has to address to take his game to the next level, but teams were hardly running in one try after another down his side.'"
You're really twisting my words now. I originally said
Quote: Mr. Zucchini Head "At the moment, it's a toss up between Yeaman, who can at least defend, and someone else, who may improve our attacking options, but may give the opposition an easy(ier) way through.'" Am I really suggesting Yeaman rather than take a risk? If the risk is score 3 tries but let in 4 is it a risk worth taking? I don't know.
I'm not defending any decisions about Crooks leaving, I know as much (nothing) as most on here about what might have happened , but if he wanted away, then so be it.
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| Thorman also played down under and look what we got !!
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| Quote: ccs "You're really twisting my words now. I originally said
Am I really suggesting Yeaman rather than take a risk? If the risk is score 3 tries but let in 4 is it a risk worth taking? I don't know.
I'm not defending any decisions about Crooks leaving, I know as much (nothing) as most on here about what might have happened , but if he wanted away, then so be it.'"
That's just how I read it. If I've got it wrong then I apologise.
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| Quote: Mr. Zucchini Head "That's just how I read it. If I've got it wrong then I apologise.'"
Fair enough, I probably didn't explain it very well.
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| Quote: B0NES "Thorman also played down under and look what we got !!'"
To be fair, Thorman was a good SL halfback at London and for Hudds for the most part, typically we signed him at the wrong time or he was struck with the Hull FC halfback curse. ( I'm sure Cooke did this when he left )
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| SKD is a very very average player. Been moved out to the wing this year to accomodate Fergo. No exaggeration, he has a brain fart every game. Whilst he didn't lose us (Chooks, my adopted team) the game, it's criminal to make it over the line these days and drop the ball.
That all being said, he'd ko doubt rip n tear up the SL as the gulf in quality seems to be getting wider again.
Crooks was muted to be in the running for te Eels this week with Semi Ranrandra being out injured, but appears Izzy Falaus brother will be blooded. i can't see Crooks breaking into the team this season simply due to his size. The Eels backs are all big boys, I tiink Crooks would offer very little.
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| Can't see Micky P in an fc shirt next season tbh . Currently Highest paid player on the books or So I've been told
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| Quote: Legends and Icons "Can't see Micky P in an fc shirt next season tbh . Currently Highest paid player on the books or do I'm informed'"
Why would he? He can go somewhere where the coach has a clue and they have a chance of winning something
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| No idea at all what he's being paid but I would assume that the other SL clubs wouldn't have an enormous financial advantage with the salary cap being so tight (Salford excepted of course). Whatever happens I'd hope Hull stick to whatever valuation they put on him and don't get side tracked into any daft bidding wars. This applies to every player of course.
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