Why are you so sure he's one of ours? His opening salvo to his very brief posting history would suggest otherwise.

If criticising your own from time to time makes you a fan of your rivals, then I would like to make you President of the Rovers supporters club!

Are we, have you the 2014 link please.

If poor and the RFL choose four players in the international squad, could be rivalling Leeds and Wigan numbers when things improve.

Could be a decent earner for you when you sell them on.

Could someone just list out the 2 squads with a breakdown of which players train with the first team or not, please?

TIA.

Not really it shows at this time for whatever reason, the person picking the squads doesn't rate the Hull players or thinks that there are better out there.

Looking at the results of the 16s and 19's we have been up there with the top teams and certainly not far off, it is how they develop from that age and into SL players and I am confident with the current set up, these players will continue to come through like they have the last 3 years.

The youth system at hull is in very good hands and will continue to produce SL standard players.

Last year we had as many players in both squads as the other teams and the likelyhood is that next time we will have more players included.

Exactly. It's a classic case of knowing the names in your own squad but not your opposition's. A fair few of those lads in the Academy squad in particular will have full-time deals and train with the first team at their clubs, and I also reckon plenty of them have played some part in their clubs' pre-season games. It's amazing that the fact we've given a couple of under 19s some first team games is being used in some sort of warped way to discount them so that people can have a pop at our youth system.

These Academy leagues and squads are flawed due to the fact they are in 2 or 3 years age groups,

for example one team could all be 3rd year 18/19's and the other full of 1st year 16/17's, similar with the U16

i know this years U16 at Hull has a large base of 15's


And we have one major problem in this are that us and KR and fighting over the same pool of talent, whereas the likes of Wigan, Saints, Wire & Leeds use the whole of Yorkshire & Lancashire

RFL are doing the audits as we speak, so lets see whats what when the grades come out, good chance of FC getting Grade 1 i recko

Dont forget as well as HTW & Lancaster, weve had Logan, Abdull, Turgut, Cunnigham , Jordan Lane, Jack Downs and Brad Harrison plus maybe a couple more in and around these squads at U16 & U19 over past couple of years

I'll also bet that they wont hang on to them all, so that might affect there grade if they dont make regualr first team

Well the persons picking the squads will have seen far more of the players than you or I will have so are in a far better place to judge how good they are. We are quick to acknowledge the selections when we have a fair few in like last year but those same selectors are now in your eyes making a mistake in not choosing more this time around, you can' have it both ways. It has to be the yardstick by how we judge how the youth is going compared to other clubs is it not???

As it stands the squads have 2 Hull players in there, considering how well we are supposed to be doing (& we aren't doing too badly over the last 2 years) do you not think that it could be better? And as DW accurately points out none are from outside the first team squad.
I checked and all the Wigan lads are outside of their first team squad.

On the second part you basically agreed with what I said, the importance of the coaching at the youth/academy level and yes we will continue to produce SL std players, however if you judge by the amount of players being picked from the top clubs AND that come through to play 1st team we still need to keep things up, no good just having a good year then fall off the next.

Fair point. I would love to be president of the rovers supporters club. When I win the euro millions I'm going to buy rovers

Euro millions? A scratch card would probably do the trick.

I'd just like to check I'm understanding this right. So:

Signing Leon Pryce is stunting the development of our under 19s players Jordan Abdull and Harry Tyson-Wilson, even though they've gathered first-team experience already.

BUT, Wigan U19s players not even being in their first team squad shows the strength of their Academy.

Summing up, U19s players not playing regularly at Hull is a bad thing, but U19s players not playing at Wigan is a good thing?

Where have I said the selectors have got it wrong? Although they do have a history of selecting players who don't live up to their potential and others who aren't picked make good SL players, look at youth squads from 5 years ago, many of them aren't playing SL now.

It's great recognition for the club and players to be selected, but the most important thing is how many of them become established SL players and this is where I am confident the club is getting it right and have brought through players every year for the last 3 years since AP took us over not just one good year as you have wrongly stated.

Also surely the club should be congratulated for having two 17 year olds in the first team squad?