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| Quote: Dave K. "I dont think we make the decsion anyway Dave?
I dont think the club will let them.'"
Again, fair point.
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| Quote: Amadeo Avogadro "Are you just after a rise today/recently?
Moa offers nothing, none of our centres can put a winger away, Horne has been crap since 2004 - seems like someone is on a little fishing trip.'"
Not really, can't help it if my opinion isn't the popular one.
Horne - has being very poor since 2004 and it is going to take more then two good performances against average teams to all of a sudden change my opinion of him overall.
Moa - I see a lot of people wanting him in the team every week and he has shown me in the games I have seen him he is not the DB's. Probably our 5th best prop and rightfully finds himself out the team. For me in the games he's played he hasn't lived upto the hype most on here give him.
Centres - Our centres have no problems scoring tries but none of them use there wingers as much as they could. We have had some good wingers with us past few seasons all with prolific try scorer records which they have not repeated during there time here.
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| For mine, prioritise Tickle, Manu, Fitzgibbon, Hall.
Also keep Yeaman, Whiting, and Houghton providing not for silly money.
Calderwood wait and see how our youngsters go if they get a chance, but probably another year at least anyway.
Cusack to retire, and if we can replace with the likes of McCarthy-Scarsbrook, perhaps choose between Dowes and Radford depending on who else we could also get and how Moa goes.
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| Quote: carl_spackler "For mine, prioritise Tickle, Manu, Fitzgibbon, Hall.
Also keep Yeaman, Whiting, and Houghton providing not for silly money.
Calderwood wait and see how our youngsters go if they get a chance, but probably another year at least anyway.
Cusack to retire, and if we can replace with the likes of McCarthy-Scarsbrook, perhaps choose between Dowes and Radford depending on who else we could also get and how Moa goes.'"
Agree with all of that. Some nice options to have there.
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| Quote: pmarrow "Centres - Our centres have no problems scoring tries but none of them use there wingers as much as they could. We have had some good wingers with us past few seasons all with prolific try scorer records which they have not repeated during there time here.'"
I'll only bite on this one. Largely down to not having a consistent partnership on the right so little understanding has been built, and our only consistently picked centre being the one least capable/willing to put his winger away on the left.
We have one centre who doesn't use his winger enough, the others simply haven't had enough of a chance to do so for the last 2 seasons to say that with such certainty.
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| Quote: Big Dave T "Agree with all of that. Some nice options to have there.'"
I forgot to include as well, definitely go after Ratchford if possible. Although I wouldn't necessarily want him right away. If Horne can continue as he is and with Turner also in the ranks, a pre-season learning with Long then back to Salford on loan could be good for all parties, like Huddersfield did with McNally.
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| Quote: carl_spackler "I forgot to include as well, definitely go after Ratchford if possible. Although I wouldn't necessarily want him right away. If Horne can continue as he is and with Turner also in the ranks, a pre-season learning with Long then back to Salford on loan could be good for all parties, like Huddersfield did with McNally.'"
Whitehaven aren't in SL. I'm not sure Salford would react as well to developing other teams' players for them. Also if he wants out of Salford, the obvious next step isn't to spend another year there. He's about 3 years older than McNally too and ready pretty much now. Hull just don't look to have an attractive vacancy for him at this stage. If Cooke leaves Rovers, he'd be a good option for us. He's under contract for 2011 at Salford, though, and I can't see us coming up with a big transfer fee. 2012 might be more realistic if you lot want to swoop. The value of mentoring from top pros (like Long and Fitzgibbon) is being slightly exaggerated, IMO. There is no substitute for playing.
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| Quote: Mild Rover "Whitehaven aren't in SL. I'm not sure Salford would react as well to developing other teams' players for them. Also if he wants out of Salford, the obvious next step isn't to spend another year there. He's about 3 years older than McNally too and ready pretty much now. Hull just don't look to have an attractive vacancy for him at this stage. If Cooke leaves Rovers, he'd be a good option for us. He's under contract for 2011 at Salford, though, and I can't see us coming up with a big transfer fee. 2012 might be more realistic if you lot want to swoop. The value of mentoring from top pros (like Long and Fitzgibbon) is being slightly exaggerated, IMO. There is no substitute for playing.'" Thought you lot were happy with I'anson?
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| Quote: east hull FC fan "Thought you lot were happy with I'anson?'"
He deserves a proper chance, certainly. Best case he makes 6 his own. Should at least be a decent utility squad player - already is in fact.
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| Quote: pmarrow "Disagree, none of our centres have a clue at putting wingers in for tries.'"
Yeaman I'll give you.
Hall definitely can put his winger away.
Briscoe hasn't had the chance to show one way or the other.
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| Quote: carl_spackler "I'll only bite on this one. Largely down to not having a consistent partnership on the right so little understanding has been built, and our only consistently picked centre being the one least capable/willing to put his winger away on the left.
We have one centre who doesn't use his winger enough, the others simply haven't had enough of a chance to do so for the last 2 seasons to say that with such certainty.'"
I'll defend Yeamo a little bit here. I agree, he doesn't pass to his winger enough, but i also think with the limited ball he gets he isn't as bad as some think.
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| Quote: carl_spackler "I forgot to include as well, definitely go after Ratchford if possible. Although I wouldn't necessarily want him right away. If Horne can continue as he is and with Turner also in the ranks, a pre-season learning with Long then back to Salford on loan could be good for all parties, like Huddersfield did with McNally.'"
I really rate Ratchford but i'm not sure where we'd play him long term or whether he'd even add to our squad.
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| Quote: Kosh "Yeaman I'll give you.
Hall definitely can put his winger away.
Briscoe hasn't had the chance to show one way or the other.'" As can Whiting, just had a bit of a brain fart at Wrexham.
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| Quote: east hull FC fan "As can Whiting, just had a bit of a brain fart at Wrexham.'"
I wasn't counting Whiting as a centre as such. He fills in there well when needed but shouldn't be considered as one of the centres in terms of squad balance.
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| I'm not 100% on LMS, he has been poor for about a year now, doesnt seemed to have kicked on from early promise, maybe a change of enviroment would do him good.
I would look at Watts (who i expect to sign a new contract at Rovers, but would make it know to his agent that we are interested) and Scruton (if he is OCC).
As for young halfbacks I am quiet excited about the two we have playing in the under 20's both still young and playing together and creating a good understanding. I would see how they progress this season.
Really liked the look of Rachtford last year thought he looked better than Myler.
Is early but it good to speculate.
I have heard that there are a few clubs looking at Richard Owen (including Rovers), would be worth looking at if he became available.
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