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I disagree, he is pretty fast but he just finds gaps other centres don't and runs angles others don't. I don't know about his contract details but its stupid he is playing at Doncaster, if he is here and playing well then he is justifying a better deal, if he has flaws in his game then the club can point to those in negotiations.


Quote: Mild mannered Janitor "Now I am a fan of Crooks, but is there any wonder some young players end up with inflated ego's when comments like this get bounded about.

Most of Crooks tries have been scored via his ability to run fast and provide support to a ball carrier

There are very few tries which spring to mind which he has created from nothing.

Oh, he needs to learn how to defend to become the player he appears to think he is!'"


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Quote: Dave K. "Looks like Taylor will be staying at wigan for another season, then move to Hull on a free (a bit of a risky strategy, but one I can understand).

Not too bad for props as it stands with Watts, Feka and Paea, the first three and one of Green and Bowden for the 4th.

Taylor to replace Feka or Paea in 2016.'"

Rumour west of the Pennines is that Wigan are willing to sell, but we're unwilling to pay.

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Quote: Dave K. "I would doubt it will make any difference, money talks, we have had and have plenty of overseas players who will speak very highly of the club, people like Ellis, Heremia and Paea could potentially help with recruitment.

Not really sure what the club has done wrong in regards Miller.'"


Nothing yet has been announced but its obvious Radford doesn't want him so the club will be looking to pay him off if both parties can agree terms..
They tried to do this with McDonnell but he wanted to stay and fight for his place,but was told he wouldn't be playing again for the club and was frozen out even though he was fit to play resulting in a court case.
I think the same will happen to Miller.
The problem is for the club that when you look at how Gentle,McDonnell and possibly Miller to come have been treated by the club it doesn't enhance the chances of bringing quality Australian players here,and I think the club will struggle to bring in any top Australian centre or second row.

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Quote: bonaire "Nothing yet has been announced but its obvious Radford doesn't want him so the club will be looking to pay him off if both parties can agree terms..
They tried to do this with McDonnell but he wanted to stay and fight for his place,but was told he wouldn't be playing again for the club and was frozen out even though he was fit to play resulting in a court case.
I think the same will happen to Miller.
The problem is for the club that when you look at how Gentle,McDonnell and possibly Miller to come have been treated by the club it doesn't enhance the chances of bringing quality Australian players here,and I think the club will struggle to bring in any top Australian centre or second row.'"


How many top Australian centres or second rows are there in Super League?

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Problem with Miller is a conflict of opinion between the coach and the owner.

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He was right in the end:



Quote: *1865* "Problem with Miller is a conflict of opinion between the coach and the owner.'"

Cheers Adam

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Quote: frepneyboy "Cheers Adam'"

You're welcome, Amy.

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Quote: *1865* "Problem with Miller is a conflict of opinion between the coach and the owner.'"

What opinion do each have ?

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Quote: Legends and Icons "What opinion do each have ?'"

AP likes him, Radford doesn't think you can build a team around him.

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Quote: steve_norton "I disagree, he is pretty fast but he just finds gaps other centres don't and runs angles others don't. I don't know about his contract details but its stupid he is playing at Doncaster, if he is here and playing well then he is justifying a better deal, if he has flaws in his game then the club can point to those in negotiations.


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I am a bit old school. I see no great skill in running into a gaping hole in the defensive line. Its the accuracy and timing of the pass which makes the run look good.

I am also of the opinion, if there are flaws in your game, then the coaching staff should address them.

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Quote: Dave K. "Out of contract NRL list, not too many stand out, one player who would make a very good backrower in SL would be Joseph Paulo, who played 6 for the USA during the World Cup and is OOC.

Let's look at the facts, Horne is retiring because his body isn't up to playing 20 games of SL, his form has been inconsistent for the last 5 years.

ok, my 3 from the nrl looking at that are

reece robinson
ben hannant or george rose
cory peterson

To be fair , id be very happy

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Quote: The Milky Bar Kid "Scored 4trys against Saints under 19's'"


Conceded as many with poor defensive reads too.

Also was arguing with Logan and didn't look at all interested in the first half, mind you neither did half the team

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Quote: Mild mannered Janitor "I am a bit old school. I see no great skill in running into a gaping hole in the defensive line. Its the accuracy and timing of the pass which makes the run look good.

I am also of the opinion, if there are flaws in your game, then the coaching staff should address them.'"

Crooks is a great attacking talent, his defence needs work but that can be coached. What skill he has with ball in hand can't. Best home grown centre at the club since schofield (Probably not saying much I know)

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Quote: bonaire "Nothing yet has been announced but its obvious Radford doesn't want him so the club will be looking to pay him off if both parties can agree terms..
They tried to do this with McDonnell but he wanted to stay and fight for his place,but was told he wouldn't be playing again for the club and was frozen out even though he was fit to play resulting in a court case.
I think the same will happen to Miller.
The problem is for the club that when you look at how Gentle,McDonnell and possibly Miller to come have been treated by the club it doesn't enhance the chances of bringing quality Australian players here,and I think the club will struggle to bring in any top Australian centre or second row.'"


See this is why the club can't win with some fans, people like you have moaned about the club and Radford all season, they then start to get ruthless and get rid of some average players who are paid miles above there value and have better players in the position they play in and the same fans moan about unfair treatment to these players.

About the club gut tough and started getting value for money from there players.

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Quote: *1865* "Rumour west of the Pennines is that Wigan are willing to sell, but we're unwilling to pay.'"



Depending on salary cap space I reckon we still might see him at Hull next year, there chairman is renowned to get money for players and won't want to lose him for nothing , I reckon they want 100k, but if we offer 50k I think they might let him go.

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