unfortunately, Fash will never be good enough and brings nothing to the table apart from enthusiasm which is not enough for this level

Me too. Fash will never be good enough and Masi seems to lack aggression, maybe he should have been sent to Leigh instead of Bienek.

It's really sad that it's been years since we developed a player that has cemented a place in the first team. Who was the last one, Shaul/Bowden?

Sadly our backup is poor .
Masi and Fash nowhere near good enough.

for me you can throw lane into that to, if brown was fit would have been nice to see him get a game, also am sure Bienik if not on loan could have added a bit more humph, over the next few weeks we will start to get players back, am still backing Radford BUT if we are still struggling when we do then his place becomes unsure,

Fair enough if they have both been out injured, i think these can go down as further opportunitys to impress missed by Fash and Matongo.

Thing with Matongo for whatever reasons he just doesnt seem busy enough, is it lack of interchange time, assertivness or bad ball distribution.

What i liked about Brown was he wanted the ball all the time, always talking and looking for work, he just seems to want it that bit more.

Lets see what Satae and Kelly bring to the team, and we l hopefully have good news on other injurys

Any updates in injurys. Bit top secret at the minute the lack of injury news, weve had no updates on Savelio or how Manu Maus doing

Wasnt Savelio only a niggle that turned into missing two games so far

Mau will be back....
Could have played yesterday but kept back for this week

Injury updates in the hdm…. https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... au-3849021 https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... mo-3873987

Injury updates in the hdm…. https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... au-3849021 https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... mo-3873987

God knows where you get that info but miles off
The only additions to the team will be Satae and Kelly

Ive seen the updates in the mail but find Radford very cryptic, like i said he said Savelio was just a niggle.

Hes abit vague with Ratu too.

Sounds like Carlos, Satae and Kelly and thats about it

I never said the pack was our biggest problem but it is a problem. Our 1st choice pack includes ellis who won't play a chunk of games this year. We're then into playing our form centre in the 2nd row or playing youngsters who clearly aren't up to it.

Stats yesterday:

lane - 9 carries
masi - 3 carries
fash 4 carries
ellis - 4 carries
bowden - 4 carries

Simply not good enough.

Contrast it to wigan's youngsters/interchange

smithies - 12 carries
partington - 13 carries
bullock - 11 carries
byrne - 12 carries
clarke - 12 carries

The forwards clearly are a problem

As radford has said, a very average wigan side