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| Quote: davey37 "Bear in mind Europa League games are on a Thursday night and the following Premiership fixtures on a Sunday afternoon.
Could be convenient that our last few home games are on a Friday night.'"
Might not be in Europe if Allam doesnt get his cheque book out |
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| Quote: frepneyboy "Might not be in Europe if Allam doesnt get his cheque book out'"
What's his cheque book got to do with it? |
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| Quote: Robbo4 "What's his cheque book got to do with it?'"
Due to UEFA financial fair play rules, the club needs £25mill pumping into to balance the books enough to allow entry into Europe.
To put it in perspective, Man City need about £300mill. But the stadium sponsor deal will be up again soon, that pulls them £500mill from Ethiad |
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| Quote: frepneyboy "Due to UEFA financial fair play rules, the club needs £25mill pumping into to balance the books enough to allow entry into Europe.
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Not true, certainly not for the 2014/15 season anyway.
The only threat to City's European ambitions would be Arsenal failing to get a top 4 finish yet still winning the FA Cup. |
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| Quote: SirStan "
The only threat to City's European ambitions would be Arsenal failing to get a top 4 finish yet still winning the FA Cup.'"
Everton beating Arsenal last week probably scuppered City's European ambitions imo. Although it's feasible that City could win the final. Arsenal have been awful for weeks now. |
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| Quote: SirStan "Not true, certainly not for the 2014/15 season anyway.
The only threat to City's European ambitions would be Arsenal failing to get a top 4 finish yet still winning the FA Cup.'"
Really?
rlhttps://www.financialfairplay.co.uk/latest-news/would-hull-city-be-allowed-into-the-europa-league-next-season-rl |
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| Quote: SirStan "Not true, certainly not for the 2014/15 season anyway.
The only threat to City's European ambitions would be Arsenal failing to get a top 4 finish yet still winning the FA Cup.'"
Wouldn't City still qualify if Arsenal finish 5th and won the FA Cup? Top 4 get into the Champions League, 5th gets Europa League along with League Cup and FA Cup winners. If Arsenal qualify via their league finish isn't it the cup runners up that get that competitions Euro entry? |
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| Quote: Doc Brown "Quote: Doc Brown "Not true, certainly not for the 2014/15 season anyway.
The only threat to City's European ambitions would be Arsenal failing to get a top 4 finish yet still winning the FA Cup.'" '"
League along with League Cup and FA Cup winners. If Arsenal qualify via their league finish isn't it the cup runners up thWouldn't City still qualify if Arsenal finish 5th and won the FA Cup? Top 4 get into the Champions League, 5th gets Europa at get that competitions Euro entry?[/quote]
As I understand it to get into Europe, City must either win the FA Cup or if they lose, hope Arsenal finish 4th.
If Arsenal win the Cup but finish 5th or lower, the last Europa League place goes to the team finishing 8th in the Premier League. |
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| Quote: frepneyboy "Really?
rlhttps://www.financialfairplay.co.uk/latest-news/would-hull-city-be-allowed-into-the-europa-league-next-season-rl'" That basically says that as city would have been playing in Europe for 4 months before Mr Allam had to cough up £25m, the only penalty they might impose would be the withholding of prizemoney.
Quote: frepneyboy "He will have until 31 Dec 2014 to convert the debt into equity. If he does not do this, it is unclear what punishment UEFA will impose – they may withhold some of Hull’s prize money or alternatively impose a punishment for the 2015/16 season. However as Hull are by no means certain to qualify for UEFA competition in 2015/16, it seems more likely that some of the prize money may be withheld if the owner did not inject the equity.'" |
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| Quote: frepneyboy "Really?
rlhttps://www.financialfairplay.co.uk/latest-news/would-hull-city-be-allowed-into-the-europa-league-next-season-rl'"
Did you even read that link? Because it blows your argument out of the water.  |
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| Quote: Doc Brown "Wouldn't City still qualify if Arsenal finish 5th and won the FA Cup? Top 4 get into the Champions League, 5th gets Europa League along with League Cup and FA Cup winners. If Arsenal qualify via their league finish isn't it the cup runners up that get that competitions Euro entry?'"
European Qualification:
Premier League Pos 1-3: Automatic Qualification for Champions League group stage.
Premier League Pos 4: Entry into Champions League at final qualifying round.
Premier League Pos 5: Automatic Entry into Europa League.
League Cup Winners: Automatic Entry into Europa League. The League Cup Winners this season were Man City who will almost certainly qualify for the Champions League, so therefore this European spot is transferred to the team finishing 6th in the Premier League (not to Sunderland who lost the final).
F.A.Cup Winners: Automatic Entry into the Europa League. if the winners have already qualified for any European spot via any of the above entry levels, then their place goes to the F.A.Cup runners-up. If both finalists have already secured a spot then the final place goes to the team finishing in 7th place in the Premier League.
As others have already stated, the financial fair play rules will not affect qualification for entry into the European competitions for the season 2014/15.
What all of this means from City's point of view is that, providing Arsenal finish anywhere inside the top 6 of this season's Premier League (highly likely, even with their stuttering league form of late), Tigers will be playing Thursday Nights on Channel 5 next season, irrespective of whether they are F.A.Cup winners or runners-up. |
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Not quite right. The fa cup place enters a round later so if nal came 5th and won the cup they would take the cup space and the other spot would revert to 7th in the league. City have everton last game of the season so cant influence this in a way.
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Not sure a Europa league place would be for the best anyway, unless you get to the quarter finals you face playing Eastern Europe teams who are so obscure you have to google them, meanwhile the long away trips and extra mid-week game stretches the squad. Swansea this season and Newcastle the other year have struggled because of it.
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| Quote: BP1 "European QualificationF.A.Cup Winners
As others have already stated, the financial fair play rules will not affect qualification for entry into the European competitions for the season 2014/15.
What all of this means from City's point of view is that, providing Arsenal finish anywhere inside the top 6 of this season's Premier League (highly likely, even with their stuttering league form of late), Tigers will be playing Thursday Nights on Channel 5 next season, irrespective of whether they are F.A.Cup winners or runners-up.'"
Where did you get this from?
Most City fans seem to think that if Arsenal win the cup and finish 5th then they take the European cup spot allocated to the FA cup because it has a higher seeding and the place reserved for finishing 5th goes to the next highest finisher in the league. |
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| Quote: Airlie Street "Where did you get this from?
Most City fans seem to think that if Arsenal win the cup and finish 5th then they take the European cup spot allocated to the FA cup because it has a higher seeding and the place reserved for finishing 5th goes to the next highest finisher in the league.'"
Found this on the Premier League website
Should the FA Cup winners, runners-up (if applicable) and the Football League Cup winners already have qualified for Europe, their place goes to the next best placed clubs in the Premier League.
Looks like City would miss out if they lose the final |
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