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| Is Matty Russell injured or just not getting picked ?
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| Quote: Kosh "Correct. Impossible to get any idea what calibre of coach we have until he has something to work with and some time to work with it.'"
I do agree Kosh, but I still feel the fans will need a bit of positivity (be it good results or top signings) to get the crowd numbers there next season. This season has done little to silence the doubters.
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| Quote: The Eclipse "Is Matty Russell injured or just not getting picked ?'"
Not getting picked
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| Any 'supporter' calling for Peter Gentle's head twenty games into at least a three year re-build is an absolute idiot.
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| Still hacked off at a 30 point reverse, and I'd say that really we'd have had
McKinnon
Sharp
Martin (because Turner's been poor)
O'Meley
Houghton
Moa
Tickle
Who would have played if available. That said, although the bench was weak and I wasn't expecting a win, that squad should have got closer than 30 points. Things that worry me are:
Lack of runners. Many times today we were set up for an offload with not a support player in sight. Gentle said before the season started, you've got to have bodies in motion. Yet we don't.
Chronic lack of creativity, linked in part to the point above.
Slow PTB
Hugely inconsistent levels of application and appetite for a battle. Lynch, Whiting and Houghton set a great example but way too few followers.
Not sure what to make of it.
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| Quote: mikey471 "Too right, look at Leeds and Wigan today, both have excellent youth set ups, we can't magic one out of thin air! It will take some time for us to get it right but I am confident we are heading in the right direction.'"
To put things into perspective even more; Leeds had Sinfield, Burrow and Mcguire together on the field for most of the match. These guys have come through the youth system and they know each others game inside out and it showed today.
Wigan on the other hand were missing Leuluai and a few of their forwards and it showed today.
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| Quote: UllFC "I do agree Kosh, but I still feel the fans will need a bit of positivity (be it good results or top signings) to get the crowd numbers there next season. This season has done little to silence the doubters.'"
Oh I understand why folk are getting frustrated. Not sure there's much that can be done about it right now though.
I know some people 'don't want to hear about injuries' but as well as the obvious effect on squad quality it means that Gentle has to keep picking the same players every week regardless of their performance or attitude. Makes it almost impossible to change things.
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "That said, although the bench was weak and I wasn't expecting a win, that squad should have got closer than 30 points.'"
Wire got spanked there by a similar margin with a much better squad. I think sometimes people underestimate just how good Catalans are, especially at home at the height of the summer. That said, the performance clearly wasn't as good as Gentle wanted. Not sure what he can do about it while we have so few options about who to play though.
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| Think we've had plenty of positives this year.
Three points off Saints, Beat Leeds, Draw with Wire - been a while since took any points off top 4.
Gentle has gone through the squad like a knife through butter, don't hear any complaints about those shown the door.
Starting pack out O'Meley, Houghton, Moa & Tickle FFS - who could cope with that ??
Loss of fullback WAS under estimated so p'raps PG not perfect.
More youngsters blooded than in living memory - PG now well aware of which are up to it & will work to improve them. Plus academy now back on right foot.
AND we played much more attractive rugby, for a while !!
I too didn't renew my pass but have paid every week - not really bothered about this season - just view it as work in progress !
In AP. PG we trust.................................
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| Quote: Kosh "Wire got spanked there by a similar margin with a much better squad. I think sometimes people underestimate just how good Catalans are, especially at home at the height of the summer. That said, the performance clearly wasn't as good as Gentle wanted. Not sure what he can do about it while we have so few options about who to play though.'"
I don't disagree that Catalans are a very good team, but we let them play on their terms. Scott Dureau played in a dinner jacket, we failed to challenge the kicker. There was one play about 13 minutes from the end where everyone sauntered about to form the scrum and Catalans were set first, not that they were rushing. Poor attitude to show the travelling fans IMO. The weather was no excuse today, was hotter when we played at Wakefield.
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| Quote: Kosh "Wire got spanked there by a similar margin with a much better squad. I think sometimes people underestimate just how good Catalans are, especially at home at the height of the summer. That said, the performance clearly wasn't as good as Gentle wanted. Not sure what he can do about it while we have so few options about who to play though.'"
I don't disagree that Catalans are a very good team, but we let them play on their terms. Scott Dureau played in a dinner jacket, we failed to challenge the kicker. There was one play about 13 minutes from the end where everyone sauntered about to form the scrum and Catalans were set first, not that they were rushing. Poor attitude to show the travelling fans IMO. The weather was no excuse today, was hotter when we played at Wakefield.
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| Quote: Kosh "Wire got spanked there by a similar margin with a much better squad. I think sometimes people underestimate just how good Catalans are, especially at home at the height of the summer. That said, the performance clearly wasn't as good as Gentle wanted. Not sure what he can do about it while we have so few options about who to play though.'"
I don't disagree that Catalans are a very good team, but we let them play on their terms. Scott Dureau played in a dinner jacket, we failed to challenge the kicker. There was one play about 13 minutes from the end where everyone sauntered about to form the scrum and Catalans were set first, not that they were rushing. Poor attitude to show the travelling fans IMO. The weather was no excuse today, was hotter when we played at Wakefield.
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| Players like McGoldrick and Seymour are playing in pivotal positions. There is no coach in the league that could make a team win away against Catalans with such poor players directing the team.
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| Quote: Raggytash "Players like McGoldrick and Seymour are playing in pivotal positions. There is no coach in the league that could make a team win away against Catalans with such poor players directing the team.'"
Why leave out Richard Horne?? He's made a testimonial level career out of being consistently rubbish!!
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| Quote: Kosh "Oh I understand why folk are getting frustrated. Not sure there's much that can be done about it right now though.
I know some people 'don't want to hear about injuries' but as well as the obvious effect on squad quality it means that Gentle has to keep picking the same players every week regardless of their performance or attitude. Makes it almost impossible to change things.'"
This.
We're in transition. Massive kudos to those who have gone out there to take the game in (again) and have a holiday break. But it's cloud cuckoo land to expect us to beat a potential full strength Grand Final team away with the players we had available tonight and the general environment we are operating this year. Cloud cuckoo land.
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