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| Quote: Isaiah "Who knows, we may grow on him!!
I just can’t see Tomkins wanting to go from FB into the halves.'"
Suppose it depends what happens with Finch, they have not tied him up yet, linked with Saints according to rumours. If Finch goes then I can imagine Sam may move to h/back with Russell coming through, if not then not sure I know they tried Russell on the wing and it never went too well. Either way Russell is signed up for a couple of years I believe, depends how much it would cost in compo I suppose, decent young prospect well worth considering.
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| Quote: Isaiah "Who knows, we may grow on him!!
I just can’t see Tomkins wanting to go from FB into the halves.'"
Why?As it stand's Wigan have no experienced halves signed for next season.
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| Quote: Sheldon "Why?As it stand's Wigan have no experienced halves signed for next season.'"
They laughed when I told them this is what's happening...
Basically though, can Wigan afford to lose Sam's positioning and kick returns? Will his skill set at halfback outweigh this? I guess this is why they're having a look at Russell and how he copes at SL level.
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| Quote: Sheldon "Why?As it stand's Wigan have no experienced halves signed for next season.'"
Because I don’t see Tomkins ‘wanting’ to go the halves.
He may get told that is where he is playing, but I doubt they would get the best out of him.
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| Quote: Isaiah "Because I don’t see Tomkins ‘wanting’ to go the halves.
He may get told that is where he is playing, but I doubt they would get the best out of him.'"
A strange conclusion.
I'ts not where they'll get the best out of HIM.
Its a team game
1. Russell
6. Tomkins
7. Finch
might be better than
1. Tomkins
6. Finch
7. ?
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| Quote: The Hollywood Frasier "Charnley and Tomkins click amazingly and I would imagine most of Charnleys tries have came from a piece of Tomkins magic.
Charnley is like Ryan Hall in that he never seems to get involved in his sides 20 to help out the forwards and you cant have 2 hugging the sideline wingers in the same side IMO.
I've not even going to click on that link
You must be on about a different player because Charnley is one of the hardest working wingers I've seen at Wigan. He constantly takes the ball out from his own line and that's why he's one of the top couple of metre making wingers in the league.
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| If Horne is earmarked for fullback next year, does anyone have any idea who might be about who can come through and cover this specialist position. Me thinks Lynne isn't up to it and Shaul is a few years away yet!
Looks like we may have to trawl the lower divisions to try and unearth a good up and coming player who can provide decent cover and eventually replace horne when he retires - as we don't seem to have a natural replacement coming through at the moment !
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| Quote: Sheldon "A strange conclusion.
I'ts not where they'll get the best out of HIM.
Its a team game
1. Russell
6. Tomkins
7. Finch
might be better than
1. Tomkins
6. Finch
7. ?'"
Why is it? All he's saying is that he wouldn't expect Tomkins to [iwant[/i to move from fullback because that's where he is at his best. Even though as you say it's a team game and it may be in Wigan's interests, that's the club's perspective not his, and if there's one player in SL I wouldn't be surprised to put himself ahead of the team's needs, it would be Sam Tomkins.
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| Quote: irregularfella "If Horne is earmarked for fullback next year, does anyone have any idea who might be about who can come through and cover this specialist position. Me thinks Lynne isn't up to it and Shaul is a few years away yet!
Looks like we may have to trawl the lower divisions to try and unearth a good up and coming player who can provide decent cover and eventually replace horne when he retires - as we don't seem to have a natural replacement coming through at the moment !'"
fingers crossed on jamie ellis yet. he has yet to show his eye for a try yet. i must admit the more time that goes buy the less you feel he is the diamond in the rough we all hoped he would be but im still holding out for a break through performance.
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| I think Matty will stay with you all season unless there is an injury to Tomkins with us at Wigan. He won't get any game time at Wigan as no one in the league would displace Sam never mind a 18 year old, although he will be a future star.
I cannot ever see us moving Sam to 6 or 7. I am certain we will bring someone else in. Wigan have a lot of big earning players leaving this season and will have a lot of cap money to play around with. We will resign Finch - the Wigan fans love him - and we will bring in a top class 7. I would love Matty to stay all season with Hull as I think he will learn a lot under your new coach and Wiganers will now tune in to cheer on Hull as a gang of us did against Leeds!! Seems a win win to me!!
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| Quote: Rocknhulla "fingers crossed on jamie ellis yet. he has yet to show his eye for a try yet. i must admit the more time that goes buy the less you feel he is the diamond in the rough we all hoped he would be but im still holding out for a break through performance.'"
Yeah, agree that Jamie Ellis looks to have the basic skill-set and may well make it as a SL player but only in the halves, don't see him at Full Back!
Who's gonna pick up the no. 1 shirt next year on a regular basis when Hornes out ? Think we need to find another half decent 'project' from somewhere as FB seems one position in the under 20's where we don't look too strong.
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| Quote: SydSyd "I think Matty will stay with you all season unless there is an injury to Tomkins with us at Wigan. He won't get any game time at Wigan as no one in the league would displace Sam never mind a 18 year old, although he will be a future star.
I cannot ever see us moving Sam to 6 or 7. I am certain we will bring someone else in. Wigan have a lot of big earning players leaving this season and will have a lot of cap money to play around with. We will resign Finch - the Wigan fans love him - and we will bring in a top class 7. I would love Matty to stay all season with Hull as I think he will learn a lot under your new coach and Wiganers will now tune in to cheer on Hull as a gang of us did against Leeds!! Seems a win win to me!!'"
TBH i think next year be sam's last and expect him to go to aussie
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| Quote: Big Brother "TBH i think next year be sam's last and expect him to go to aussie'"
Yeah, I'm sure that all the NRL clubs would love to buy him out of a 5-year contract.
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| Quote: Panda92 "Yeah, I'm sure that all the NRL clubs would love to buy him out of a 5-year contract.'"
Depends on sams desire, burgess was under contract at bradford didn't stop him going
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| Quote: Big Brother "TBH i think next year be sam's last and expect him to go to aussie'"
You wish!!!!!!
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