Then we can start a shiny new thread. Happy days.

Great Queen track

Watch this space....(no link yet)

Says who?

Time to fulfil your promise Mrs B

Heard a strong rumour earlier from a decent source but not able to verify it

You only have one source

give us a clue, good news or bad news????

Depends on whether your initials are RA or not.

Seems unlikely mind.

Aye, mass breaches of the AUP followed by mass bannings

I did not jump on the Agar out as early as some, I gave him planty of opportunity to bed himself in. I was pleased when he was given the opportunity to coach the team, he had earned the right at least and I think most supported his appointment. He could have been one of the best coaches we ever had, many of us though so and even more of hoped he was. I wanted him to succeed a young English coach with young players packed with potential the future looked bright, oh how wrong it has turned out.

I have seen that he is inept in use of substitutions, his wierd positional team selections and the constant off laying of the blame. The use of spin, players being publically blamed for losses and the constant injury problems. We gave him time to put together "his team" and have watched a teamw e where all proud of back in 05 turn into what we see today. The team is full of old great players, journey men and a springling of local players who have survived the soviet style culls that have been a feature of late. The team is a poor one, we are strong in the forwards on paper and I think we have far too many second row forwards. We are weak at halfback due to signing a half back on megga bucks that is past his best and injury prone now, it was always going to be a gamble signing Longy its has not worked. Horney did well getting back from that neck injury he has not been the same since and we all knew it, how come we did not sign even some sort of cover. They could have signed Briggs from Fev they did not even try, he looked good last week for Bradford.

The backs are light and we all knew we needed a class centre, did we get one no we got another second row forward in Westerman. A good player but how long before he starts getting pushed around into the 6,7 or even 9 spots, remember Washy was once highly rated and under Agar has gone backwards.

Last term where he managed to beat out some very close wins, this saved him from the boot. I think we where aweful to watch and I know some people think winning is all important and the manner is does not matter. I do not buy into "we improved last year" theory, did we improve because of better coaching, players or did we get a bit of luck last year in the close matches. We did not perform very well against the top teams in the last three seasons and this year the competition will be more intense and we could well find ourselves down at the bottom end of the table for a long period.

My biggest fear has always been a spiral slide downwards, the crowd was clearly down on Friday night and I was even suprised it 12K. The next home game is Crusaders who will bring a coach load and it could well slip under the 10k figure very easily. If this continues it will put fans off for years, they have invested heavily in the club for years and been promised the world, they do not deserve what they have been served up.

I do not think Agar will go just yet, the board will have a keen eye on the payoff costs I am sure, but they can not and will not allow him to continue when he starts badly effecting the clubs income. I do not think Noble will come here under the present regime, the way the club runs the playing side is well known within the coaches of this game of ours. A few changes are required within the club to put right what has been wrong for years within the coaching set up, one of them is that the head coach has ABSOLUTE CONTROL concerning the playing staff. The back room staff in recent years has been decimated with many long serving servants of the club "purged" for one reason or another in favour of more preferred people closer to the mangement way of thinking.

Getting rid of Rich Agar is only part of the problem, he will only be replaced with some one similar unless deeper changes happen.

That deserves a thread of its own, not to be buried on page 16