Thaler on the VR that took so long ?can you go to the camera in the bar and see where the steward is with my double whisky please, ah here they come, I?ve made my decision? Jack Smith to Thaler ? Erm Ben, you left the video on the try decision running backwards and forwards? Thaler to Smith ?Ah, forgot about that? after a good gulp of whisky , ?I?ve made my decision, try on field, the daft FC fans won?t notice?

Very disappointing performance from the boys, but hopefully, we will turn it around next week.

Then, a handy little break.
Is anyone close to returning?

Am i the only one who thinks Amir should be subbed earlier to change the speed of the game?

Thought we played fine in the first half, was causing them problems in attack and didn't seem to struggle to make meters coming out of yardage, it was individual errors which killed us, and against a team like Wigan you are ultimately going to be punished.


The Second half was easily the worst of the year so far, we looked out on our feet. Its been a big month and players doing more minutes than they probably ought to which seemed to catch up to us. We had a good spell of possession in their half and never looked like scoring.


Hopefully we can get through MW with a win and the players can get a few days off to freshen up.

I'm surprised by how many minutes Bourouh plays, and was calling for Balmforth to come on earlier, but Denive really didn't look fit at all when he came on. 

Me too.

To be fair to DB back from a long injury and only a short period to try and affect a change in the game is a lot to ask.

Hopefully, he will get back to some fom soon.

burough has done ok but I don't think he's been as good as some make out.  Some of his passing from dummy half has been woeful and really slows down the attack.  I'd also like to see him run more to engage the defence rather than just darts out of dummy half.  He's also been overplayed.


The whole forward pack is struggling due to playing too many minutes and it's starting to catch us up.  With 2 proper second rowers starting and one on the bench with 2 props it gives us much more flexibility.  cartwright obviously doesn't trust the likes of balmforth and eseh in tight games meaning burough, herman and knight playing too many minutes.


If herman doesn't come through I do genuinely worry about hudds on Sunday.  If they get a few back and we're even more under strength they could catch us

The games got to consider how it is coming across to casual viewers, generally sports popular in Europe are continuous and fast paced (exceptions Test Cricket, club Union) but we seem to get morphing into American Football where it's one play, stoppage, replay. Repeat. But Americans sit eating all game so the time soon passes!

If it takes five minutes to make a decision then surely there is doubt like Carty said so should have given no try. 

Exactly its should be a max of 30 to 60 secs and if there is nothing clear and obvious then the on field decision stays. For me the 5 min delay while Thaler looked for any reason he could to over turn the on field call just killed the game as it just sucked the life out of it.

Its time the whole on field decision / VR process is reviewed as it is now a becoming too big a negative in the game as it is so poorly executed. 

Wasn't it Carty who got DB extended contract?


So its doubtful it's a trust issue.


AB has been excellent but the minutes are taking a toll imo.


DB has been injured so Carty might just want ease him back.

What's the maximum number of games a player is allowed to play?

Knight got 1 point and a fine so clearly deemed not that bad.