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| Quote: ccs "Before the Widnes game, our attack was much improved, our defence somewhat disappointing.
So do you now suggest we should focus on attack?
We had enough clear cut opportunities to score 20+ points, so I don't think we need to worry too much at this stage.
Last season those chances simply weren't being created often enough.'"
I think that now we're a few games into the season, hindsight shows that we racked up 2 good scores against 2 of the 3 worst defences in the league. Apart from that, only a last minute consolation try has taken us above 16 points in any of the other 4 games. Our defence is about on par with our position in the table (actually the 8th best, and we've played 2 of the 3 best attacking sides so far).
So yes, I do think our attack is currently more of a problem than our defence (yet again).
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| Quote: ccs "Before the Widnes game, our attack was much improved, our defence somewhat disappointing.
So do you now suggest we should focus on attack?
We had enough clear cut opportunities to score 20+ points, so I don't think we need to worry too much at this stage.
Last season those chances simply weren't being created often enough.'"
It's all well and good creating opportunities but we need to put points on the board in those situations. It's not the first game this season we've bombed opportunities in games that we could have won either. There were certainly missed opportunities against Warrington and Cas which could have given us quite a different result.
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| Quote: Doc Brown "It's all well and good creating opportunities but we need to put points on the board in those situations. It's not the first game this season we've bombed opportunities in games that we could have won either. There were certainly missed opportunities against Warrington and Cas which could have given us quite a different result.'" I'm not disputing that we aren't converting opportunities into points, but the attacking structures have improved to create these chances.
Without chances there would be no points at all, ever.
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| Well he's certainly making some changes because there are one or two pretty upset players around this afternoon according o Jams Smailes!
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| Quote: The Dentist Wilf "Well he's certainly making some changes because there are one or two pretty upset players around this afternoon according o Jams Smailes!'"
That's not hard to work out
17 from 19
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| Quote: hazzard "That's not hard to work out
17 from 19'" ...or 2 from 19 (or maybe 2+4) from 19
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| Fair play to Lee Radford I say, he has made some mistakes I agree but a message had to be sent out to the squad this week that last week was not acceptable. If dropping a few players and maybe sacrificing one game means we will gain a switched on squad for the rest of the season then I am all for it. Miller should be given the next 2/3 games to be shown what he can do, one game isn't going to reflect it IMO.
My other fear is that we will have another nightmare game and we start digging deeper rather then going up.
Time will only tell I guess.
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| Quote: ccs "I'm not disputing that we aren't converting opportunities into points, but the attacking structures have improved to create these chances.
Without chances there would be no points at all, ever.'"
I agree that they've improved but for me we still need to focus more on those attacking structures rather than improving our defence so that we get those points. We've been in some tight games so far this season that we've narrowly lost and for me it's been more about our missed opportunities whilst attacking than our defence letting us down.
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| Quote: ccs "I'm not disputing that we aren't converting opportunities into points, but the attacking structures have improved to create these chances.
Without chances there would be no points at all, ever.'"
It's chicken and egg, really though. Without the ability to convert chances there wouldn't be any points either. We've essentially changed a lack of chances problem for a poor execution one, with the same end result. Execution to convert is just as important a part of attack as the creation of chances.
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| Quote: carl_spackler "Execution to convert is just as important a part of attack as the creation of chances.'"
But one further step down the line towards success
In all seriousness we really should have beaten Widnes easily with the number of clear chances created. That is full square down to individuals not performing the basics of their job. The thing I was most disappointed about against Widnes wasn't the execution but the lack of energy in our game in the second half. I want to see far more energy and urgency from every player especially if we are trailing at home.
Fair play to Radders if he drops players - he's said he will do so and doesn't appear to me like a guy who would say things he had no intention of doing.
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| Quote: Staffs FC "But one further step down the line towards success
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