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Did we have an unused sub last night or did I miss Burrell come on?

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Quote: mwindass "Only one I can think is Berrigan

How old was he when he moved to hooker? He was already an established international centre at the time I think.

This doesn't mean I want to try Shaul at hooker though
He started in the halfs then moved to centre but also played hooker from the bench occasionally in the NRL and for Queensland and Australia. Looking at his stats on RL project he was used a lot as an interchange due to his versatility.

I think we never so the best of him as he played a lot in the halfs due to injuries. I thought his best position was centre but he hardly played there for us.

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Quote: R.B.A "Of course it is still a specialist position. A hooker probably touches the ball more, has more involvements and makes more decisions than any other player on the park.

Some players have the skill set to convert into a hooker, James Roby for example, but you can't just throw anybody in there and expect to compete.'"


Yes answer Dave K question, and what did you post

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Quote: K-Diddy "Did we have an unused sub last night or did I miss Burrell come on?'"


We’re gently easing him in, a two minute debut at home, followed by an eighty minute dug out education at veryfartown.

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Quote: Marcus's Bicycle "I can't think of many if any player let alone a full back who have successfully switched position to hooker in their late 20's and made a success of it.

Hookers have their hands on the ball more than any player and probably have to make more decisions as well. People complain about Houghton's slow service, unfairly in my opinion, so what would Shaul's be like.'"


Perhaps Gary Peacham, in days of yore icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: ComeOnYouUll "Are you sure about that? The attendance was 3859 and their average that year was 3666 so you're saying clubs took around 1700 travelling fans on average.'"

They also only had 4,000 against Leeds you saying Leeds wouldn't of took that aswell?

They're lowest crowd was 2,100 big gap from 3,800

But still doubt they're was many more than 600 last night but I do get the point about people getting back into the swing of going again esp away matches

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Quote: bonaire "Really dont understand the reasoning there.
You dismiss the idea of Shaul at nine yet like the idea of playing Mcnamara at nine when he is very similar to Johnstone who most of us have written off as a replacement for Houghton.
Whilst McNamara is still young he like Johnstone lacks pace and probably will be the reason he never makes it in Super League.
We saw last night what a half back with pace can do and he at 18 is younger than Mcnamara .'"



Well the first problem is that Shaul isnt fit and McNamara is.

I'm not talking about this as a long term move, but for the next month or so.

McNamara has a much better skillset than Shaul to play hooker.

You seem to think all you need to play hooker is pace, so why not play Swift there?

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The hooket situation is Radfords fault, he should have addressed it two years ago, but he preferred to play Houghton for the full 80. Even if Houghton was out he rather play the likes of Fash, Hadley or Washbrook over Litten.

I just hope Hodgson can see how desperate we are for a hooker.

We do need another prop, but we have 6 decent props plus Bowden.

Compare this to Houghton and Johnstone, you can see hooker is a real weakness.

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Wigan's attendance tonight was just 5,555 which will ring alarm bells for all clubs.

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Quote: ComeOnYouUll "Wigan's attendance tonight was just 5,555 which will ring alarm bells for all clubs.'"


Indeed snd I think it was always going to a real concern that such a long lay off of not being able to go to games means clubs and the sport will lose fans from getting out the habit of going, struggling financially due to covid, realise more important things to do or spend money on etc the list goes on. There is also a real apathy for the game that has been growing not helped by the piddle poor governance of the sport.

I also think the growing discontent amongst the Wigan fans and Lam being the coach won’t help their attendance on top of the other reasons.

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Quote: Dave K. "Well the first problem is that Shaul isnt fit and McNamara is.

I'm not talking about this as a long term move, but for the next month or so.

McNamara has a much better skillset than Shaul to play hooker.

You seem to think all you need to play hooker is pace, so why not play Swift there?'"


Whats the skill set Mcnamara has that Shaul doesnt have to play 9?
Its normally pick the ball up and pass to a first receiver.Any Pro rugby player surely can do that.
Pace is now what the game is all about and some real pace in this area would help our go forward such a lot.
Maybe until Shaul is fit then use Mcnamara in this position but for me he is too similar to Johnstone.
Still maintain its no longer a specialist position and as you have pointed out in your following post Radford used several forwards in this position.The wrong options in my opinion but goes to prove its not specialist and why the hooker position should be officially reclassified as a dummy-half

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Quote: bonaire "Whats the skill set Mcnamara has that Shaul doesnt have to play 9?
Its normally pick the ball up and pass to a first receiver.Any Pro rugby player surely can do that.
Pace is now what the game is all about and some real pace in this area would help our go forward such a lot.
Maybe until Shaul is fit then use Mcnamara in this position but for me he is too similar to Johnstone.
Still maintain its no longer a specialist position and as you have pointed out in your following post Radford used several forwards in this position.The wrong options in my opinion but goes to prove its not specialist and why the hooker position should be officially reclassified as a dummy-half'"


Radford did and it never worked. That's why hooker is a specialist position. You are surely contradicting yourself.

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Quote: ComeOnYouUll "Wigan's attendance tonight was just 5,555 which will ring alarm bells for all clubs.'"


It is indeed. Think we got circa 5k for our 2 games. Interesting what ours will be against Leeds especially on TV and a Thursday night.

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Quote: bonaire "Whats the skill set Mcnamara has that Shaul doesnt have to play 9?
Its normally pick the ball up and pass to a first receiver.Any Pro rugby player surely can do that.
Pace is now what the game is all about and some real pace in this area would help our go forward such a lot.
Maybe until Shaul is fit then use Mcnamara in this position but for me he is too similar to Johnstone.
Still maintain its no longer a specialist position and as you have pointed out in your following post Radford used several forwards in this position.The wrong options in my opinion but goes to prove its not specialist and why the hooker position should be officially reclassified as a dummy-half'"


As Dave K said if it's that easy why don't you play wingers as a hooker. Passing the ball with speed and accuracy to the first receiver tackle after tackle is a skill. Hookers make it look easy because they've played there all their professional careers. I agree with you the new rules suit a more explosive pacy dummy half but Shaul has never played there before and I cannot see how he can adjust now.

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Quote: bonaire "Whats the skill set Mcnamara has that Shaul doesnt have to play 9?
Its normally pick the ball up and pass to a first receiver.Any Pro rugby player surely can do that.
Pace is now what the game is all about and some real pace in this area would help our go forward such a lot.
Maybe until Shaul is fit then use Mcnamara in this position but for me he is too similar to Johnstone.
Still maintain its no longer a specialist position and as you have pointed out in your following post Radford used several forwards in this position.The wrong options in my opinion but goes to prove its not specialist and why the hooker position should be officially reclassified as a dummy-half'"


Craig Wing would of been your man, he was a hooker, and a Wing icon_biggrin.gif

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