So glad you lost today. Thinking it’s acceptable to forearm smash a prone player.

Why do teams who are awful resort to being as dirty as possible?

19 games !!!!

From viewing it. It looks like Griffin asks Kendall what the penalty was for. Then he seems to point towards the screen, possibly suggesting that he was asking Kendall if he could have used the video ref?

Then Griffin turned and was walking away and said something to himself. He didn't direct what he said at Kendall.

A good referee would have had the people skills to deal with that situation.

We had a great, value for money, entertaining first half and then Kendsll ruined it for everyone, because despite the experience he has, these types of occasions are too high for his standard of refereeing.

I don't blame Griffin one bit. A more competent referee would have dealt with that situation by laughing at Griffin and telling him to go have a half-time cuppa.

I say Griffin did nothing that merited even a ten minutes sin bin. And I challenge Kendall, the touch judges and anyone at the RFL to prove me wrong by telling us what was said..

What a stupid post, id say the video of Josh Griffin sat with his missus, head in hands in the changing room suggests that he knows hes just let his team mates down, obviously thats just a guess though, much like what youve just guessed.

What a patheticly, ridiculous, stupid, silly, dumb post that is by you.

Haven't had the pleasure of watching the full game yet, only saw about 10 mins, Trueman and Welsbys scores.

Sounds like we were on the wrong end of some iffy calls. On the Griffin red its just dumb from him. Saying that Kendall comes across as though he has a massive superiority complex and isn't a great communicator.

Saw enough of the game to not pick Dwyer for next week. Said he was a headless chicken when we were linked with him last season.

Would I have taken that performance before the game? Probably, but do wonder what might have been if no card was shown

Looks like we'll be missing Griffin, Taylor and possibly Hoy and Fash for next week.

I was impressed by our ability to still create space out wide with our shape in that second half. Couple of opportunities created out there. Really like the look of the direction out attack is going in- fluid and expansive.

Also, what’s the point in giving him the ten minutes to calm down and then instantly giving him the red? I’ve never seen the cards used this way (like football) in rugby.

What score did we end up beating you t’other week?

It’ll be interesting to see what Griffin said. There’s an area between harsh and fair, occupied by “would a Saints player have got the same card for saying the same thing?”

Have Hull started pushing an extra player to their right when defending in their own twenty? I noticed against Warrington at Magic that Wire’s attack going down that side was running into a lot of traffic - but going the other way, Hull looked a bit stretched. Similar in the first half yesterday. Might just be my perception, but I could see sense in it… until other teams work it out.

It is somebody (probably) pretending to be a Saints fan, pretending to be a Warrington fan. Don’t ask me why!

Yesterday was just so frustrating. I never thought we’d win the cup but for me the first half yesterday was set up for the second half to be a humdinger.

You look at the NRL and refs like Nigel Owens. There’s a rapport between players the the ref. All Kendall had to say to griffin was

“I’m refereeing this game, not you. I gave the call I thought was right. Apologise for your language or I’ll send you for 10”

Griffin then has to take his medicine, knows his place and the spectacle isn’t ruined. post game he can get a £250 fine and hopefully learn his lesson

I was out down south last night and was talking to a big bloke in a RU top. Said he watched the game and was enjoying it till the red card. I’m sure there were 1000s like that.

I was at the game yesterday and after most games end up arguing with my dad whos a right referee basher and im generally in the you cant always blame the ref camp but yesterday the ref was atrocious to the point of being bent. Kendall had an agenda and that was to ping FC for everything. Saints getting constant pens 25 from Hulls line, if we got any they was in our own 25. There was nothing in the Fash incident, Saints players arguing with the ref no issues but Griffin sent off, Saints shoulder charges especially the one on Fash going unpunished - the whole thing was a shambles and an official complaint should be put in from FC about Kendalls performance imo

Are the ref’s still miked up? Would be interesting if they are to see if what Griffin said is picked up to justify the yellow and red cards

That's the 3rd time for a griffin, Wigan away in the play offs, Cas in the cup and now this, he isn't learning and deserves a ban. What does he expect to happen by abusing the ref, he isn't going to change his mind and this cost us any chance of winning this game. He will more likely get a ban and if he does he will hopefully learn.

So looks like Hoy, Fash, Tag and Griffin out on Thursday, Clifford, Brown, Gardiner? and Lane with possibly Scott or Lovudua on the bench.