I think its very likely that pass sales will be lower than this year.

However if we make a good start and play some good rugby hopefully some of the ex-passholders will attend most games and the usual walk-up support will hold up well.

one thing is for sure, the club cannot deliver another "jam tomorrow" season, we said we need half backs, we've paid for half backs (quality/value can be discussed/countered)

I know a lot of people who are saying next year is their last if we don't improve (not necessarily win things),6/8/6/6/11 is not progress.
and I thought Agar was bad!

Some people say that every year (I have said it myself in the past) but most of us renew.

I do agree though that we are entitled to taste some jam in the coming season. I'm not expecting to win anything but I am entitled to expect it to be much, much better than this season.

It can be done - look at Cas this season and to a lesser extent Widnes.

I have mine but if we don't see a big improvement or a change of coach then I won't renew again for 2016

Got mine on Saturday . Even if we were relegated next season I'd still get a pass the year after and after and after ect ect ect ect ... I wouldn't be able to help myself. Hull fc are in my blood and there's nothing I can do about it (not that I would anyway)

I still think we wil average between 9 1/2 to 10 k next year

rewarding failure, the FC malaise for 30 years+

Hard to say if that's a good figure or not, as the deadlines, discounts and promotions vary each season. For 2013 for example you got entered in to more prize draws if you bought early and that got a lot of passes sold early on.

interesting how there don't seem to be similar promotions this season.

Can see use getting c 8,000 with little trouble.

The improved form at the KC at the end of the season should convince a few waverers to renew

If you buy by tomorrow you can get your 2016 pass with no price increase so after tomorrow I suspect sales may slow down until we get near the end of the discount period on 29 November.

there was the '£150 pass' in the West Stand, the Direct Debit deadline, and freezing your pass price for 2016. Not the kind of deadlines/promos that would get new fans flocking through the doors, but it will have prompted many to buy earlier.

.....plus

It's not rewarding anyone for anything. It's discretionary spending on a leisure activity, the value of which is purely subjective. Criticising others for how they spend their leisure money is extremely patronising.

Surely that is against the aup then?

I can't see anything in the AUP which it offends against.

If you can't criticise what other people say or do (provided you don't do it in a threatening or abusive way) this would be a pretty boring place.