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| Quote PAUL M="PAUL M"That's why his injury excuse doesn't sit well with me. Of course we are missing some key players but we still do so many basic things wrong. We had no attacking structure against Rovers whatsoever. Yet we had trained all week with those player in those positions?'"
exactly right even without the quality pivots we should have dummy runners and be able to pass the ball when its on with a bit of speed its just basics
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| And why didn't we just constantly attack their right hand side? They looked flakey as hell and on the rare occassions we kicked to that side brown panicked
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| Quote PAUL M="PAUL M"That's why his injury excuse doesn't sit well with me. Of course we are missing some key players but we still do so many basic things wrong. We had no attacking structure against Rovers whatsoever. Yet we had trained all week with those player in those positions?'"
How did you feel we went last season ? Did we improve ? It think we did and that's why I think he deserves to have this season as well despite the current problems.
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| Quote Jake the Peg="Jake the Peg"And why didn't we just constantly attack their right hand side? They looked flakey as hell and on the rare occassions we kicked to that side brown panicked'"
We had numbers on our left constantly but Houghton kept going right. Even when we tried we couldn't pass quickly or accurately enough. It was quite depressing the low level of skill on offer.
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| Quote Staffs FC="Staffs FC"How did you feel we went last season ? Did we improve ? It think we did and that's why I think he deserves to have this season as well despite the current problems.'"
I don't think we improved in all those areas and we still were inconsistent (Widnes away then Bulls away as examples). However I would say there were improvements in how we played. Which is why I can't understand how we seem to have gone backwards.
The issue for me is that we don't have any identity in how we play. We don't have a structure which we can see slowly taking shape. We just look like a rabble.
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| Quote PAUL M="PAUL M"We had numbers on our left constantly but Houghton kept going right. Even when we tried we couldn't pass quickly or accurately enough. It was quite depressing the low level of skill on offer.'"
It's been a bug bearer of mine for ages the lack of skill level we have at the club . We just never seem to improve under succession coaches .
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| Quote Jake the Peg="Jake the Peg"w@nka'"
At least he'd get the umpa lumpas playing with passion
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| Quote PAUL M="PAUL M"Sacking Gentle now would be the wrong decision, he deserves the season. However, I see little progression in the side and if that continues then AP may need to act. We still have absolutely zero attacking structure, lose the collision, fail to play the ball quickly, don't offer dummy runners, don't support enough, don't offload enough. These are all fundamental issues I would expect to see improvement in. This is the biggest disapointment for me.'"
The really frustrating thing is, Paul, that we [idid[/i see improvements in all these areas last season. And arguably in the first few games of this season. I'm not saying we solved these problems entirely but we did improve.
Now we've gone backwards and have fallen into the same old patterns of play. I don't believe that's down to Gentle but he's the one who has to deal with it - and sooner rather than later.
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| Quote PAUL M="PAUL M"That's why his injury excuse doesn't sit well with me. Of course we are missing some key players but we still do so many basic things wrong. We had no attacking structure against Rovers whatsoever. Yet we had trained all week with those player in those positions?'"
Gentle agrees with you mate. He made it clear in his after match interview that despite the injuries and all that went with them he was confident of winning with the side that we put out.
He need to find a way of getting the players reproducing in matches what they do in training. Although for me it's a sad state of affairs if they can't do this in a Derby off their own back. Add in the fact that at least two of them clearly could and you have to wonder what's going on with the rest of them.
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| It's often said you learn more about players in defeat than victory. Same goes for the coach. Gentle's had a rough hand this season but he's not alone. Several coaches have been without half-backs / key players & most of them have found some sort of fix. Not ideal but you play the cards you're dealt.
This is where Gentles limitations have been exposed imo, an inability to think laterally & develop a plan b when he's outside of his comfort zone...& this looks like it's transferred to the players.
I knew we'd won yesterday when Galea knocked on. The body language of Hulls players was awful. Every single one dropped their heads, no leadership, no belief. Even at 0-0 they looked like they'd accepted defeat. Can't look beyond your coach for that.
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| Quote Kosh="Kosh"The really frustrating thing is, Paul, that we [idid[/i see improvements in all these areas last season. And arguably in the first few games of this season. I'm not saying we solved these problems entirely but we did improve.
Now we've gone backwards and have fallen into the same old patterns of play. I don't believe that's down to Gentle but he's the one who has to deal with it - and sooner rather than later.'"
This is why I've been saying all season. What has changed? It's weird.
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| Quote B0NES="B0NES"It's been a bug bearer of mine for ages the lack of skill level we have at the club . We just never seem to improve under succession coaches .'"
It's really baffling mate, it's basic passing skills.
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