In fairness we did [itry[/i to replace Moa.

2 points less than the corresponding games last season.

Thought we did OK. Defence was excellent up until their 2nd try then we seemed to throw the towel in. We lacked a leader on the pitch and the shat kicking game and poor discipline and ball renetion killed us in the 2nd half.

If holdsworth had of played I think we may well have won

Out of interest who would you have replaced moa with?
Not been funny but they're not exactly growing on trees.
Lynch watts starting, ogre off bench with 1other isn't too bad at all. With our full strength back row it would be a tasty looking pack for me.

Disappointing to lose it in a short spell like we did. Too much possession against us overall and it told in the end. Lynchy not really been the same this season so far slow start from him. Not far off shame that DJ was out I was surprised after seeing the Saints game how nothing was mentioned about the late high shot that he got off Meli. Personally I would have played Seymour tonight I don't think Heremaia is consistent enough at ha;f back and Seymour is supposed to be our half back depth. Thought the officials were very average tonight. Unbelievable that Bentham went to the screen for everything except the second half Monaghan cross kick score where Monaghan was in front of the kicker (I was bang in line with it). We need to equalise our play the ball speed with that of the opposition if we are to step up a level this season. Wire and others of their like play the official but we never seem to match it. Down but not out - better days to come but a strong and authoritative performance at Widnes is now a must.

Must wins or Adam Pearson will start to question Mr Gentle...

looking at our next few matches think and hope we can get on a bit of a roll

Would certainly hope to get a few wins now. Although if hullman's triage is accurate we'll be 7 players down which will make it tougher.

Our defence is looking good, but we look poor going forwards bringing the ball away from our own end. How many times this season have we had a set coming off our own line that's even got over halfway? Not many I wouldn't imagine, because our play the ball is that slow our pack's just getting lined up and smashed every tackle.

Pretty even game apart from the small section in the 2nd half when you just imploded but for that it would have been a tight finish.

2nd half vs Saints Hull were going nearly the full length each set! You battered them.

Tonight it was more down to Wire's defence which was relentless.

Chin up.

Gutsy effort from Hull but class won out.

Uncanny resemblance between Rovers 2012 & Hull 2013.

Rovers first 4 games 2012; lost to Leeds,drew with St Helens, lost to Warrington, beat Wakefield.

Hull 2013;lost to Leeds, drew with St Helens , lost to Warrington, beat Bradford.

Played 4, won 1, drawn 1 lost 2.

Next game 2012 for Rovers ..Widnes . Next game 2013 for Hull ...Widnes.

Having seen Widnes I predict Hull will bounce back to form next week.

Disappointing loss and performance. For me Wire bossed the whole game and dominated territorially. We had to come off our line too much and let them make too many metres with the ball. The weight of tackling in our own half was always going to tell and it did in the second half. We lost nearly all the collisions and the floor and the ptb speed they generated made the difference for me. Our ball movement was poor and we didn't off enough in attack although field position dictated that too.

I expected 2 points from the first 4 games so happy with 3. We will improve and Ellis, DJ and Watts will make a big difference to us.

I still fancy us to finish top 6 and challenge in the playoffs, i've always maintained we will be a better team second half of the season as it takes time for players to play well together.

Westy was good last night as was Lineham and Yeamo's defence was great. McDonnell is showing his class and will go really well on harder grounds.

As for the Seymour debate, I assume players get picked on either form or how they train, maybe he isn't training well enough?

You did loads of analysis of early fixtures in 2012 as a basis to predict Rovers strong finish. Hope you're not implying we too will end the year with one win from 10. Bit early for that.

I've said all along we lack size in the forwards. Until we address that then we are always going to come off 2nd best to the top teams. I don't think a small, mobile pack can win SL

Peter Gentle / Paul Cullen / Peter Gentle / Paul Cullen ad lib to fade