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| Quote: One man rugby "Not posted on here for ages but i can't hold it back any longer!
I'm not impressed with the promoting an assistant to head coach tactic. In my mind, if team are performing badly then it isn't just the head coaches fault - its got to be down to the whole coaching staff otherwise whats the point of having an assistant in the first place? We should have had a new broom and swept the whole thing clean. Agar won't work, mark my words.
With the focus firmly on Hull City at the moment I was hoping for a big name coach to provide a bit of interest in Hull FC. Giving Agar the job, talking about getting back to grass roots and probably (though hopefully not) having a team at the bottom part of the league for the rest of the season, isn't going to make Rugby League in West Hull seem very exciting.
I've been a die-hard fan of FC for 13 years and I'm afraid the lack of interest and passion from the club as a whole has turned me off this year.
We have a lacklustre team that has no real quality at all. When Jamie Thackray, a player dumped by his previous 2 teams (one of which was FC!) stands out as the star performer, then i think we have problems.
I know there's been injuries but be honest with yourself - how many of our side would YOU keep if you were the coach? How many would get into - dare i say it??? - the Leeds Rhinos squad?
Not many.
Players such as Sing for instance - what has he ever done for us? Nothing. If he's injured he shouldn't be in the side. Dump him and promote a young kid who'll be eager to show his worth in the same way Houghton and Washbrook have. Kusack is nothing more than a Paul Mcnicholas clone - he does nothing either. And without wanting to bring it up again - we should never have got rid of Briscoe. Ever see him playing with a lack of passion in an FC shirt? Never!
Its sad to say but Rovers show more guts, more interest in the club and make much more of a statement to the Rugby League world at the moment.
Sack the board, dump the deadwood and get FC back to where the should be
It's intresting that you mention Hull City.
I'm sure that alot of City fans where underwelmed when Phil Brown was appointted from assistant, do you still think they think like that?
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| I'm not 100% certain but i don't think Phil Brown was parkinsons assistant?
forgive me if he was, i honestly don't remember.
I hear what you're saying but I don't think it's quite the same.
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| Quote: One man rugby "I'm not 100% certain but i don't think Phil Brown was parkinsons assistant?
forgive me if he was, i honestly don't remember.
I hear what you're saying but I don't think it's quite the same.'"
He was his assistant.
they where near the bottom like Hull, the club had faith in him, it paid off.
The big different is that he had the backing of the board to sign the players he wanted, i have doubts that Agar will have that.
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| Quote: Dave K. "He was his assistant.
they where near the bottom like Hull, the club had faith in him, it paid off.
The big different is that he had the backing of the board to sign the players he wanted, i have doubts that Agar will have that.'"
Spot On!
And before he came to City he was manager at Derby and got sacked after 7 months.
All the best RA.
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| thing is that when brown took over City were almost relegated and then spent the first half of this year looking very ordinary.
Bet Agar won't get a season and half to turn FC round. And I bet paying him off if he fails won't be too much of an issue either, guarantee he won't be on the sort of salary that most coaches are.
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23521.jpg [quote="Tarquin Fuego":3e09qe5x] I love Jamie and have done since he was 10 years old. [/quote:3e09qe5x]
[quote="The Reason":3e09qe5x]Hi Andy
The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.
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| Quote: One man rugby "thing is that when brown took over City were almost relegated and then spent the first half of this year looking very ordinary.
Bet Agar won't get a season and half to turn FC round. And I bet paying him off if he fails won't be too much of an issue either, guarantee he won't be on the sort of salary that most coaches are.'"
he should be given enough time he also should be in charge of signings and resignings because if carvell, thackray, king and wheeldon all leave there isn't a coach in the world who could acheive anything with us next season.
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| Quote: One man rugby "thing is that when brown took over City were almost relegated and then spent the first half of this year looking very ordinary.
Bet Agar won't get a season and half to turn FC round. And I bet paying him off if he fails won't be too much of an issue either, guarantee he won't be on the sort of salary that most coaches are.'"
He should be given to the end of the season and see if things are improving, if not he's out. A good coach will turn things around straight away like Noble did at Wigan
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23521.jpg [quote="Tarquin Fuego":3e09qe5x] I love Jamie and have done since he was 10 years old. [/quote:3e09qe5x]
[quote="The Reason":3e09qe5x]Hi Andy
The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.
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| Quote: Hazzer "He should be given to the end of the season and see if things are improving, if not he's out. A good coach will turn things around straight away like Noble did at Wigan'"
so when are we announcing the signing of two players?
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| Quote: Hazzer "He should be given to the end of the season and see if things are improving, if not he's out. A good coach will turn things around straight away like Noble did at Wigan'"
I expect to see improvments, Wigan brought in Dobson and spent nearly 500K on one player, and still didnt make the play offs.
Too expect him to turn things around straight away with the same squad is just stupid, your attitude towards Agar is embarrasing.
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23521.jpg [quote="Tarquin Fuego":3e09qe5x] I love Jamie and have done since he was 10 years old. [/quote:3e09qe5x]
[quote="The Reason":3e09qe5x]Hi Andy
The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.
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Regards,
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Matthew[/quote:3e09qe5x]:23521.jpg |
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| Quote: Dave K. "I expect to see improvments, Wigan brought in Dobson and spent nearly 500K on one player, and still didnt make the play offs.
Too expect him to turn things around straight away with the same squad is just stupid, your attitude towards Agar is embarrasing.'"
agar has just been given the hardest job in super league if he can get 8th i'd say hes done very well.
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Last is definitely Agar's assistant.
Quote: I have worked with Andy Last for the last four years and he is someone that I trust and have faith in. He is a tremendous coach and person and this is our chance to make our mark.
"Agar has also confirmed that 27-year-old Andy Last - who also served under Sharp - will step up as his right-hand man but accepts he will need to strengthen his coaching staff in the long term.
He said
www.skysports.com/story/0,19528, ... 12,00.html
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Last is definitely Agar's assistant.
Quote: I have worked with Andy Last for the last four years and he is someone that I trust and have faith in. He is a tremendous coach and person and this is our chance to make our mark.
"Agar has also confirmed that 27-year-old Andy Last - who also served under Sharp - will step up as his right-hand man but accepts he will need to strengthen his coaching staff in the long term.
He said
www.skysports.com/story/0,19528, ... 12,00.html
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| Quote: simonhullfc "Saw more of them on Sunday than we have all season!
Wrong.
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| My main concern about this situation is the familiarity the players will have with Agar and Last and the possiblity that we will just carry on where we left off. I'm quite prepared to give Rich my full backing here and really hope he can turn us into a successful side. Having said that I do have my doubts and worry that Rich has been too close to the action to perhaps be objective enough to make the touch decisions. Time will tell I suppose but for now I will reserve judgement and hope the board and Agar have got this right.
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| Quote: carl_spackler "I think it's a bit unfait to suggest people aren't backing him. Just because some of us are a bit uncertain about the choice doesn't mean we don't want him to do well and think he has the potential to be a good head coach. We just view it as a very difficult situation for a coach to come into, particularly a relatively inexperienced one.
Why is it that so many of the issues on this board get painted as a black or white decision, you've either got to be 100% behind a decision or it's deemed that you're having a go? There is usually some middle ground.
As for what Agar said, I'm glad he's dedicated to the club and hope he is the man to help us climb the table and get us back challenging for honours next year. Good luck fella.'"
Agree completely.
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| Would have been happy if we got a big name but i think it is a good decision to give in that role
and a brave decision at that
Confident he can acheive things for us
Good luck to Rich Agar!!
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