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| Quote: hull2524 "agree with most diogenes but this slowest back line i dont, compare shaul/ cockayne, shaul for me, lineham/ sio id say level, micheals /goulding defo micheals , logan /welham hard to say ?,pryce albert only one winner there, rankin campese likewise, so pretty even to me,'"
They may play Dixon at FB and he's at least as fast as Shaul. TBH I hope they do play him because Cockayne is better defensively and always plays well against us.
I guess Jack Logan would be disappointed to be thought to be only as fast as Welham, although he usually plays well against us too.
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| Quote: Mr. Zucchini Head "This pace thing is one thing I don't understand.
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it fits with the agenda of some
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| Quote: Mr. Zucchini Head "This pace thing is one thing I don't understand.
If the line ups are as I expect it will be
Pace is subjective, but whatever criteria you wish to use regards the players you have listed above, HKR have scored more tries, have more tackle busts and in metres gained HKR blow HFC out the water. IMO, HKR backs are a pace (class) above but if you are talking forwards then that's a different matter.
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| Pace isn't a big problem, lack of skill and the ability to break the line is our main problem. This is why we haven't scored many (If any) trys from our own half.
Backing up and offloading is the worst in the league also.
All whole attack needs working on.
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| Quote: Structured "Pace is subjective, but whatever criteria you wish to use regards the players you have listed above, HKR have scored more tries, have more tackle busts and in metres gained HKR blow HFC out the water. IMO, HKR backs are a pace (class) above but if you are talking forwards then that's a different matter.'"
It's your halfs, tactics and structures that are better than ours, their isn't much between our wingers or centres IMO.
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| Quote: Dave K. "Pace isn't a big problem, lack of skill and the ability to break the line is our main problem. This is why we haven't scored many (If any) trys from our own half.
Backing up and offloading is the worst in the league also.
All whole attack needs working on.'" t
I think this is where we have been missing Shaul for his support play, he mostly seems to be in the right place for an off load, I know offloads are a bit lacking in our game but would you try offloading if you knew there was nobody there to capitalise on it.
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| Quote: Dave K. "It's your halfs, tactics and structures that are better than ours, their isn't much between our wingers or centres IMO.'"
I would agree with that, and our advantage in the halves countered by your firepower in the pack. Likely to come down to which coach comes up withthe best game plan, assuming the players follow it.
I'm a natural pessimist so I'll say Hull by 10.
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| Quote: Bobbin' Along "I would agree with that, and our advantage in the halves countered by your firepower in the pack. Likely to come down to which coach comes up withthe best game plan, assuming the players follow it.
I'm a natural pessimist so I'll say Hull by 10.'"
Game set and match Rovers.
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| Quote: oddball327 "t
I think this is where we have been missing Shaul for his support play, he mostly seems to be in the right place for an off load, I know offloads are a bit lacking in our game but would you try offloading if you knew there was nobody there to capitalise on it.'"
This is a problem though isn't it. We shouldn't be relying on one player coming back to offer some support, looking to receive an offload. The whole team should be looking for the chance to allow an offload. Other teams offload for fun as every player seems to want the ball.
Is our offload issue down to the players not wanting the ball or are we perhaps too structured and drilled that we're perhaps stifling any creativity our players have. No one is willing to try something and take a chance when the score is tight?
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| Quote: Dave K. "Game set and match Rovers.
Laughed out loud at this. How depressing!
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| Quote: Doc Brown "This is a problem though isn't it. We shouldn't be relying on one player coming back to offer some support, looking to receive an offload. The whole team should be looking for the chance to allow an offload. Other teams offload for fun as every player seems to want the ball.
Is our offload issue down to the players not wanting the ball or are we perhaps too structured and drilled that we're perhaps stifling any creativity our players have. No one is willing to try something and take a chance when the score is tight?'"
In most of our games we've had players looking to offload but no support to take the ball. Do that long enough and players stop trying to offload.
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| Quote: Kosh "In most of our games we've had players looking to offload but no support to take the ball. Do that long enough and players stop trying to offload.'"
Pryce is the prime example, always looking we did it once and Rankin scored off the back of it.
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| Kelly is exactly like NRL fans say he is , can sniff out intercepts,does the odd unexpected play but lacks in many other depts and goes missing a lot.I have no doubt he will be targeted and if the jobs done well it will be one of his days to go missing.Would I have him in my side ?yes i would, do I think he will beat Fc on his own ..NO. Earl Crabtree got it right on the Saints/Rovers game although they were un beaten they have not looked world beaters and did not perform well and it took two intercepts and a drop ball to give Rovers a win and no sparkling RL.Who will win? anybody's guess it the derby is the gap between the two huge like many make out ..NO. Whatever the result it wont stop the moaners and it will still leave Radford on the edge.
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| Quote: hokeydokey "Kelly is exactly like NRL fans say he is , can sniff out intercepts,does the odd unexpected play but lacks in many other depts and goes missing a lot.I have no doubt he will be targeted and if the jobs done well it will be one of his days to go missing.Would I have him in my side ?yes i would, do I think he will beat Fc on his own ..NO. Earl Crabtree got it right on the Saints/Rovers game although they were un beaten they have not looked world beaters and did not perform well and it took two intercepts and a drop ball to give Rovers a win and no sparkling RL.Who will win? anybody's guess it the derby is the gap between the two huge like many make out ..NO. Whatever the result it wont stop the moaners and it will still leave Radford on the edge.'"
At the moment I would take a win without any sparkling RL
How close do you think we will get to Saints on Monday?
There is plenty of cause to moan at the moment.
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| Quote: Diogenes "At the moment I would take a win without any sparkling RL
How close do you think we will get to Saints on Monday?
There is plenty of cause to moan at the moment.'"
Got a chance at Saints IMO, loads of injuries including both halfbacks.
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