The kid will be ruined that's what you have to lose.

Likes of Lane, fash even cator won't win you a game of pass the parcel.

He's human and will make mistakes, just like you, me and everyone else. He doesn't make mistakes on purpose. He'll know he's not had the best of days.

Interesting listening to Humberside before the game. TS tactful as ever refusing to be drawn on questions re Wynne but then Lane allowed to throw himself under the bus with his daft “we owe them one” interview.

You been on the happy juice. Very good post. Agree with that

Some interesting stats from the stats man. Particularly the fact we made mearly as many metres as Salford, despite having 62 less carries, that's a extra 10 sets, near impossible to win a game with that less possession. Thought we looked pretty good in attack and defence when we held the ball, we are streets ahead in both from the early rounds

Lane 6 hit ups in 80 minutes, hopefully Savelio comes back soon.

15 to 7/8 errors.

You can't argue with Hoys effort 21 hit ups 174 metres, does this nearly every week he plays.

They are starters every game I just don't think they will take us to the next level

Take taylor and satae out and our pack is so lightweight

Fash couldn't carry a pack like taylor did

Fash and cator that's all they are "pretty solid" at best. point proven you just said it yourself they won't take us to the next level

When players post stats like this, how much of it is down to them being lazy or the team not using them enough? If we constantly attack down the left with Griff, Clifford, Sutcliffe and swift....then players on the right edge won't have as good stats as those on the edge that is being used more?

Its a fair point Steve, I've always said we use our backs too much, it worked when we had the likes of Faramio, Fonu and Talanoa, but we are a bit too lightweight now. All that could also be said about the forwards.

I think it must be a bit of both, I appreciate we attack more the left, but our both made the same amount of carries (10), while Griffin (who also had a short spell off) ,made twice as many carries than Lane

The thing is. Listening to Jordan Lane’s interviews and he realises he’s not doing the things he was a couple of years ago and knows he is making mistakes.

At least he isn’t arrogant enough to think I am in the team and playing okay.

But then you would think that taking so few carries, every week, would make him doubly determined to get more involved in the next match but it doesn’t seem to change? Is that down to the way we play?

I had such high hopes for him, but he may be one of those players that flatter to deceive, when they break into the team and may have reached his level. Callum Lancaster was the same, a winger that scored prolifically, when he came through but never went anywhere. I do hope Lane does find his best form, it can only be a good thing if so, but, as we have little option to replace him, it is an obvious weakness in the fabric of that edge that good teams exploit.

I don't mind Lane as a squad member, should be cheap and like Fash seems not get injured too much and can play big minutes, but he shouldn't be a starter when everyone else is fit.

Agreed, Fash and Lane have a place in the 17, but shouldn't have the 12&13 shirts if we're to challenge for the top 4