Once the player becomes a 1st team member then he's under the guidance of the 1st team coaching staff. Last has provided plenty of quality for the 1st team their individual progress thereafter his not his responsibility.

well said, however i would also add this..
RA said at the start of the season, " judge me on the results on my team this year " and so far we are sat in 4th in the table potentially looking at 8 points from our next 4 games if things go to plan.
We have lost to teams that have upset other so called big guns this term as well so have faired same as others .

so far he has done very well given the horrific injury situation recently, now we are getting bodies back lets watch as we start to fly a bit!!

How do you think Rich will get on tomorrow with "with that sounds good to me" in eurovision.

No he isn't, he is a physiotherapist, Ben Cooper and his assistant are in charge of the fitness and conditioning.

And how can Andy Last be solely responsible for a player not reaching his potential?

He coaches the 21'/20's and if it is like the vast majority of other clubs the reserves coach has one single most important thing which is to make sure the players at that level are getting coached the exact same techniques and plays as the first team to make the jump up if and when required an easier one.
If a kid cant pass or catch at 20 he wont be playing for Hull FC.

I do not know how some people think sometimes!!

On the evidence of the last 2 years, most of the 1st team struggle to catch and pass.

Here's some questions for you: Do you think that the rugby league hotbed of Hull, with it's large and thriving youth and amateur scene has produced enough top class players in the last 20 years? When was the last time the area produced a real star of the game? Do you believe that the young kids in Hull are any less talented than those in leeds, wigan, saint helens, even oldham?

There are a bunch of very talented amateur coaches out there in the area who with limited funds and time do a cracking job , the issue at present in the Amgame is that because RL is a second tier sport in the UK it does not get the sort of funding that other sports do but given the quality of the staff at many amteams in the area and the Hornes and Yeamans they constantly turn out I think they are doing a Sterling Job personally and also with the advent of the SL as it is now with no relegation and the correct reduction of overseas players it will give these kids the chance to come through more and more and the clubs the ability to nurture them better .

My mistake then, Pope the physio should be sacked because of the abnormal amount of injuries we suffer and have done for the last few seasons. Cooper and his assistant should be sacked because our fitness levels are nowhere near that of the top clubs, or are you going to tell me it's coincidence that since he left Hudds for us their fitness levels have improved way beyond ours?

As for Last, as JTP says for a big club in a supposed rugby league hotbed we simply don't produce anywere near enough good players and he has to take some of, if not all the responsibility for that. Forgive the football analogy, but look how Benitez got rid of Steve Heighway from the Liverpool academy because it wasn't producing enough youngsters that were up to the required standard.

That's how I think, it's really not that irrational!

Just out of interest, I am told that Webster had created a detailed dossier of Cas and their weaknesses/strengths prior to the game. Something I think that we can all agree appears to have been sadly lacking in recent times. A positive step and hopefully he will bring some nounce and tactical awareness to FC. Agar can then concentrate on what he does well..................................

Something John Kear was expert at, when an assistant coach.

When Bomber first brought him here, the very first thing he did was hand each of the then squad, a detailed dossier on their strengths & weaknesses, telling them that was the sort of information the opposition studied before each game.

OK, I'll make it easy for you. How many players has Hull produced in the last 20 years who have been GB/England shoe ins? Do you believe that this represents a lack of quality players available or a failure of the clubs' development systems in turning raw talent into the finished product?

I think it's obvious that Hull as an area isn't turning the undouted talent into top quality players. It seems to me that there are regularly kids from Hull who are dfeemed good enough to play internationally at junior level, so why are none of these coming through and replicating it at senior level. I don't expect all of them to, likewise I don't expect none of them to. I don't know what the answer is or even if there is a problem, however it seems to me that an area where so many kids are playing is under represented in terms of producing international standard players

agar was over the moon with it. He used it to prop open his office door last we when it was really hot and he got a nice draught through