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| Quote: Mrs Barista "Week to week - where was this reported? My opinion is that the funds required to change coaching teams to the calibre many expect is probably unrealistic given additional cash already sunk on the squad.'"
Another failure of a season and fans walking away would be much more expensive.
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| Quote: Mr. Zucchini Head "Kind of my position too.
Apathy is the best word to describe it. I can't even be bothered to have a rant about it. We need a change just to get a bit of excitement around the club again.
Sadly I just can't see anything happening any time soon. We may well beat Warrington next week, but frankly I don't care.'"
I think we have Wakefield next week, and I think we may (again) struggle against them
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| Quote: Wilde 3 "Connor proved today that he is not a 6. Did more in 25mins at centre than the previous 4 games at 6'"
Exactly the same as we said today. He looked a decent player again today.
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| Quote: giddyupoldfella "If I'm right, I believe we've only had 5 first team players ever present in the first five games. Shaul, Griffin, Sneyd, Taylor and Sao. You could count Connor too, but he missed half a game today. I think Lane as been ever present too, but not sure he'd make our best 17 if all fit.
It's not that easy to be producing your best stuff week to week, when you have heavy disruption to the continuity of your team like that. It just so happened we got these disruptions during a tough run of games. That's just the way it goes sometimes.
The main thing now is to try and pick ourselves back up after a tough to take defeat, and we have to do it quick, by Friday, because Wakefield won't be feeling sorry for us'"
Its true that injuries and suspensions have played their part, but we have chosen to go with a larger squad which should help lessen the impact.
At clubs on a lower budget such as Wakefield if a big name player gets injured they are down to youth players, not someone like Lane who has played 35 times across 3 seasons now. The problem we have is that this group of 'squad players' dont make enough impact. Lane wasnt bad today, but never changes a game either.
You then have the question of if we didnt have so many squad players could we invest in 1 or 2 top class players instead. Theres pros and cons with both approaches when it comes to squad size.
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "Week to week - where was this reported? My opinion is that the funds required to change coaching teams to the calibre many expect is probably unrealistic given additional cash already sunk on the squad.'"
It's been widely reported, seems everyone else is aware of this.
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| Quote: Mr. Zucchini Head "Another failure of a season and fans walking away would be much more expensive.'"
This always gets brought up yet we have nearly 9k pass holders after 2 average seasons.
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| I don’t think it matters what the fans think to an extent.
AP lost 300K last year, and has budgeted for a £300K loss for this year.
He hasn’t done that to finish 6th or 7th.
This year is make or break for sure. We’ll either be pushing for the Grand Final or searching for a new coach.
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| Quote: giddyupoldfella "If I'm right, I believe we've only had 5 first team players ever present in the first five games. Shaul, Griffin, Sneyd, Taylor and Sao. You could count Connor too, but he missed half a game today. I think Lane as been ever present too, but not sure he'd make our best 17 if all fit.
It's not that easy to be producing your best stuff week to week, when you have heavy disruption to the continuity of your team like that. It just so happened we got these disruptions during a tough run of games. That's just the way it goes sometimes.
The main thing now is to try and pick ourselves back up after a tough to take defeat, and we have to do it quick, by Friday, because Wakefield won't be feeling sorry for us'"
Fair enough but those players got us into a commanding lead today, threw it away, managed to get us ahead again only to mess it up. Symptomatic of the last 7 years
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "This always gets brought up yet we have nearly 9k pass holders after 2 average seasons.'"
I dont beleive thousands will walk away, but theres clearly a good 4-5k who are 'interested' in the club and will go to the big games like the derby but not 'standard' home games. We need more of these fans to be passholders if we ever want to become a consistent top team and to not have Pearson funding losses.
For a few years now youve been more likely to see a loss than a win at the KCOM, and often the games have been atmosphereless and dull. Today was an interesting game in fairness, but there isnt a great vibe in the stands again.
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| Sounds like Leeds Rhinos are set to appoint Lee Gilmour to their coaching set-up.
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| Today was totally unacceptable and has been replicated so many times through Radford's tenure. Record losing streak, consecutive highest SL losses.
Any other coach would have been relieved of their duties a long time ago. Radford cannot simply dine out on his CC wins forever.
This is not an opinion based on 5 games of a new season.
This is probably the strongest team that Radford has assembled at great cost but yet we produce the same dire rugby with the odd flashes of brilliance and the same shocking results.
That was one of the strongest teams we could have put out today, there are no excuses, that team should have been competitive for a full 80 minutes and not thrown such a lead away.
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| Quote: UllFC "I dont beleive thousands will walk away, but theres clearly a good 4-5k who are 'interested' in the club and will go to the big games like the derby but not 'standard' home games. We need more of these fans to be passholders if we ever want to become a consistent top team and to not have Pearson funding losses.
For a few years now youve been more likely to see a loss than a win at the KCOM, and often the games have been atmosphereless and dull. Today was an interesting game in fairness, but there isnt a great vibe in the stands again.'"
Agreed. My point is that I doubt there's cash available now to do pay offs and trade ups. Maybe change will happen at the end of the season if it is going to.
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "Agreed. My point is that I doubt there's cash available now to do pay offs and trade ups. Maybe change will happen at the end of the season if it is going to.'"
But that's the point you don't know.
Why would you need a payoff on a rolling contract?
Adam has made a huge investment in the playing roster, he now needs to replicate that investment in a coach now whilst the season is not yet over.
To get a change now is a must in order not lose floating fans and pass holders for next season and to see some return on his money.
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| Quote: Bombed Out "But that's the point you don't know.
Why would you need a payoff on a rolling contract?
Adam has made a huge investment in the playing roster, he now needs to replicate that investment in a coach now whilst the season is not yet over.
To get a change now is a must in order not lose floating fans and pass holders for next season and to see some return on his money.'"
Surely it depends on the length of the rolling period? It could be 12 month rolling for example. If you think AP has the means to and will fork out for severance, and to get a release of this mythical top class coach wanting to come to Hull FC, and the associated incremental salary for him and his team, well, that's lovely. I doubt it will happen personally.
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| Quote: IR80 "why would Powell leave Cas'"
Never said he would. Instead of just saying "Radford out" I thought would say who I'd like as coach or look at trying to get in
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