When he has a good game I'll gladly give him credit, Hadley will give you more solid metres going forward, while Tomo will give you one good run in ten, while the rest of the time he gets dominated

There is simply no basis to state that other than being your opinion. Hadley has SL experience and does not let the team down.

Neither Hadley nor Thompson look to have a lot more progression in their games. At least Turgut should have the potential to improve. I'd personally rather he got the game time out the three.

Why does a player have to be in the first XVII every week to justify their place in the squad?
Isn't that the whole point of having squad players, they aren't on top dollar but are good back ups, when we are able to produce a squad full of hull trained players from the academy system things might be different but we don't. And as seen by accquiring the likes of Connor, Griffin etc sometimes the youngsters just aren't of the required standard or the coach doesn't have the luxury of trying to introduce youngsetrs or doesn't trust them to do the job.
the likes of Thompson, hadley etc fill those positions we need just as any other team does.

i agree, hes a back up player,

Well its a forum and its all about opinions.As for SL experience,how does Turgut get it then?.....he will offer more than Hadley AND Thompson when he gets his chance.I have seen nothing in Hadley yo suggest he will be a stand out player and we need something different in the 2nd row.

I like Hadley and I expect to see both him and Turgut in the same team down the line. But if Turgut fulfills his potential he'll be the one grabbing tries and headlines.

Hadley isn't explosive or massive hitter in defence which doesn't make him stand out so he gets written off
But for me he's defensively decent with good technique. Solid rinner and has some of the best hands in our pack and is a beautiful line runner. Deserves far more appreciation than he gets on here imo
Id personally have him over thompson when fit. Do think Turgut will surpass them both though

The thing with Hadley for me is that hes never really stood out. Hes been given a fair few opportunities but has never really taken a game by the balls. Now this is a player who has players like Ellis and Mini to learn from yet he doesnt seem to be progressing. My comment regarding him blocking players like Turgut is true, If Hadley keeps getting the nod in front of him then Turguts chance is getting blocked - he could flop given a reasonable run of games but he could step up and be our John Bateman which is something Hadley sadly doesnt look like becoming

As you say all about opinions. We see different things in players. As for Turgut be nice to see how he goes at some time this year. Looks like mini wants to go round for another year

I would like to see Turgut on the bench against Saints.
Dont see the point in carrying Connor on the bench.

Can see Hadley replacing Thompson when his loan stint finishes

Given Hadley's squad number, I would have thought he was very much on Radfords radar.

Personally I dont understand some of the comments on this thread regarding a player who has never let the side down. What message would it send out to that player if he were to get over looked for an untried youngster. Turgut will have to earn his place or wait for a dip in form or an injury.

Given that Hadley is not available for selection (at Wakey) it will be interesting to see if Turgut does get his chance against St's. Afterall, with the amount he is being touted on here I'd expect him to be in the starting 13.

I think Turgut was the only one who really stood out in the pre -season friendlies when the sort of back up team and unders played and people want to see more of him as he looked like he had something about him

Nothing against Hadley - i hope he comes back from Wakey rejuvenated and helps push us on

Got no problem with playing Turgut but last year Radford was risk averse when it came to giving fringe players game time (well actually the season before too until it came to injury in the 8s) and this did cost us in the end.
all our starters (in the forwards) were knackered including DH which was apparent in the Warrington home game.
Radford couldn't trust to the back up players or just couldn't see that the fortune of having first XIII uninjured for the most part was having a detrimental affect in the long run. He was very much under pressure last season, or bust and obviously felt the need to play the best (on paper) team every week -and why wouldn't you it would seem to be the natural thing to do.

It's a balancing act between putting out your on paper best XIII/XVII or thinking that a fresh back up player might well perform better than a knackered first choice.
LR needs to be pro-active in this decision making and injuries may force his hand anyway. Yes get Turgut on as a starter if peiple think he is ready/goo enough, however LR will decide and in that whatever words we say, whatever our views he makes the decisions, rightly or wrongly.
that he seemed to give more time to the backups/fringe/youngsters in the pre-season is a sign he recognises that he must rotate so the likes of Turgut, Matongo et al will get more game time than previous seasons.