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| I thought he had been sacked for fighting will Miller ?!?!?
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| Quote: HFC Boy "I thought he had been sacked for fighting will Miller ?!?!?'"
Bloody bad rumours init
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| Quote: Legends and Icons "Bloody bad rumours init'"
Exactly !
What is it with Hull FC fans ? Constant rumour about players , fixation with new future signings.
We really have become a fickle bunch !
Get behind the Club and support your team !
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| Quote: carl_spackler "To be that important to us he needs to cut out the sloppiness, though. Whilst I agree he was one of best forwards last year, he still lets himself down with basic errors he simply should not do at times. As much as I rate him and think that the level of criticism singled out for him can be unfair, hand on heart he's still not one of the players I could say we can rely upon to get a play right when it comes to the crunch.
What I disagree with is the way I think many hold him up to different standards to those around him, picking him out for criticism when most of the time he is no worse (and maybe no better) than his teammates. I know why he's the one picked out, I just don't understand/agree with it. It's a bit like that old line about attitudes towards women in the workplace; he has to perform twice as well to be considered half as good.'"
As does O'Loughlin. I also don't see him as being any more sloppy than anyone else in the team, the stats you yourself provided proved that.
He'll hopefully be able to take more control of a game from 13 and grow as an influence on the team.
People on here who know me, know how high a regard I hold Westy in. For me the kids a true great waiting to happen, people forget he's only 24, that's the same age as Chris Green! He's got ten years ahead of him, he needs to make this 'his club' and take control of this young group and lead them forward.
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| Brilliant player who maybe plays to many mins in the position he holds, concentration always drops when a player is fatigued, forgot he is only 24 his best years are in front of him hope he stays at FC for the rest of his career.
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| Don't rate him!
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| When are people going to realise he's not good, never as been, never will be, costs us games with stupid penalties at worst possible times, can't catch, can't tackle, think alot if hulls problems come from sticking with players like him, get rid and lets stop kidding ourselves he's going to be a top player, not going to happen! So bored of people banging on about how much potential he's got, if he as got potential, he's not professional enough to ever reach is potentional, lets get rid and spend big on a classy 13, don't know who haha but got to be someone better! Oh yeh, Richard whiting! It's a no brainer , only my opinion of course
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| Quote: Tinkerman23 "When are people going to realise he's not good, never as been, never will be, costs us games with stupid penalties at worst possible times, can't catch, can't tackle, think alot if hulls problems come from sticking with players like him, get rid and lets stop kidding ourselves he's going to be a top player, not going to happen! So bored of people banging on about how much potential he's got, if he as got potential, he's not professional enough to ever reach is potentional, lets get rid and spend big on a classy 13, don't know who haha but got to be someone better! Oh yeh, Richard whiting! It's a no brainer , only my opinion of course'"
People had these views on Danny Brough in his time at FC, i understand its peoples own views but he needs support & backing of us fans they all do, there is nothing worse then making an error & having all the stadium on your back, anyone that puts the famous black & white shirt on to play gets my support, its a hard enough game without us lot booing or heckling. COYH.
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| Quote: Tinkerman23 "When are people going to realise he's not good, never as been, never will be, costs us games with stupid penalties at worst possible times, can't catch, can't tackle, think alot if hulls problems come from sticking with players like him, get rid and lets stop kidding ourselves he's going to be a top player, not going to happen! So bored of people banging on about how much potential he's got, if he as got potential, he's not professional enough to ever reach is potentional, lets get rid and spend big on a classy 13, don't know who haha but got to be someone better! Oh yeh, Richard whiting! It's a no brainer , only my opinion of course'"
Hear, hear! You've brilliantly summed up exactly how I view Westerman, the root cause of his failings due to the bit I've underlined.
How Whiting isn't running out every week as loose man and captain is beyond me. Not the classiest but the cleverest, most professional and most reliable we have.
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| Quote: Tinkerman23 "When are people going to realise he's not good, never as been, never will be, costs us games with stupid penalties at worst possible times, can't catch, can't tackle, think alot if hulls problems come from sticking with players like him, get rid and lets stop kidding ourselves he's going to be a top player, not going to happen! So bored of people banging on about how much potential he's got, if he as got potential, he's not professional enough to ever reach is potentional, lets get rid and spend big on a classy 13, don't know who haha but got to be someone better! Oh yeh, Richard whiting! It's a no brainer , only my opinion of course'"
Got any proof, or can you even remember these games he cost us? My suggestion is you're talking out of your ar$e, and you're another one of the ones that make stupid references to a fee he had nothing to do with. If you don't rate Westerman, you don't understand rugby league, ask any of his team mates or anyone in the game if he's any good.
And please don't give it the pathetic Whiting at 13 drivel, Rich doesn't even want to play there FFS.
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| Quote: WormInHand "Hear, hear! You've brilliantly summed up exactly how I view Westerman, the root cause of his failings due to the bit I've underlined.
How Whiting isn't running out every week as loose man and captain is beyond me. Not the classiest but the cleverest, most professional and most reliable we have.'"
How are you, or any of us in a position to judge any players professionalism? Or are you just another one that just listens to the bull?
Links or proof to this unprofessionalism please, as it's a rather derogatory thing to accuse him of.
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| Quote: easthull fc fan "People had these views on Danny Brough in his time at FC, i understand its peoples own views but he needs support & backing of us fans they all do, there is nothing worse then making an error & having all the stadium on your back, anyone that puts the famous black & white shirt on to play gets my support, its a hard enough game without us lot booing or heckling. COYH.
I'd never boo or heckle a hull player and I do whole heartley give my full support to anyone in a black and white shirt, but I see what I see and after to many games , after another bad performance , I always find myself discussing westerman errors, penalties etc, people talk about him been our next captain! What a joke, maybe 20 years ago, we need a professional as our captain, and we have one in Ellis , the days of a popular member of the team who's a bit of a jack the lad, who can organise a good up , is not the stuff of captains
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| Quote: easthull fc fan "People had these views on Danny Brough in his time at FC, i understand its peoples own views but he needs support & backing of us fans they all do, there is nothing worse then making an error & having all the stadium on your back, anyone that puts the famous black & white shirt on to play gets my support, its a hard enough game without us lot booing or heckling. COYH.
Crap, both with regard to Brough and your failure to understand that it's part of the calibre of a good sportsman to learn from his mistakes, dedicate himself to improving his weaknesses, and be professional enough to respond appropriately to the crowd. They criticize for a reason.
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| Quote: Tinkerman23 "I'd never boo or heckle a hull player and I do whole heartley give my full support to anyone in a black and white shirt, but I see what I see and after to many games , after another bad performance , I always find myself discussing westerman errors, penalties etc, people talk about him been our next captain! What a joke, maybe 20 years ago, we need a professional as our captain, and we have one in Ellis , the days of a popular member of the team who's a bit of a jack the lad, who can organise a good mickey up , is not the stuff of captains'"
But hes played as a ball handler & a lot of minutes in an era were we have been poor in attack & done a very lot of defending hes bound to give penalties away & knock on hes in the very thick of it a lot of pens are given away for offside for when we are not winning the floor. thats how i see it. he is 24 with a lot of good rugby ahead of him.
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| Westy has been a good signing for us, but he should be outstanding, our best forward over the season IMO.
top assists for a forward
2nd in try's for a forward
Top tackle busts in the forwards
2nd tackling in the club.
2nd offloads in the club.
Two areas he needs to improve on is errors with ball in hand and discipline.
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