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| We on bowt same calderwood ! Wats inventive that he does ? His work rate int owt special either cnt wait 4 raynor 2 get bk
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| Quote: Big Dave T "Currently his work rate and his desire to get involved and try and influence the game. (and do something inventive and different)
Also his kick chase and defensively he has made some really key plays too.'"
Well said totally agree
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| Quote: hullandbroncos "We on bowt same calderwood ! Wats inventive that he does ? His work rate int owt special either cnt wait 4 raynor 2 get bk'"
Raynor will be on the left wing with Calderwood on the right. Another Calderwood knocker then without really watching the game i guess?
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| Quote: Big Dave T "Raynor will be on the left wing with Calderwood on the right. Another Calderwood knocker then without really watching the game i guess?'"
Too right, I always thought wingers were supposed to play on the wing and expect a little bit of service from their centres or halves, we have when fit two of the fastest and elusive wingers in the game yet they don't get any early ball to exploit their pace, they both come in and do their bit when needed, they give the forwards a bit of a hand and defensively they both chase down kick s really well, they make the odd error when tackling and as for the high ball it's one of the hardest things to defend against when the attacking team are coming at pace and you have to jump from a stationary position, imo I wouldn't swap them two for another wing pair in SL.
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| Quote: j_hunter_hkr "Just out of interest, what do Hull FC fans see has Mark Calderwood's strengths?'"
none yet...back end of last season, when we know we'd signed him, he was playing really well. I was very keen to see what he could do for us. But not impressed so far. He seems out of the team to me. Doesn't gel. First game against Wigan, he looked like he was ready to come off after 5 minutes. Not impressed yet...but I'm hoping he'll shine through sooner rather than later.
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| Quote: Big Dave T "Raynor will be on the left wing with Calderwood on the right. Another Calderwood knocker then without really watching the game i guess?'"
Erm yes seen all the games thanx and he hasnt impresd 1 bit , wen he has bin given the ball he isnt in the rite place , he is shaky in defence under the high ball aswel !
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| Quote: hullandbroncos "Erm yes seen all the games thanx and he hasnt impresd 1 bit , wen he has bin given the ball he isnt in the rite place , he is shaky in defence under the high ball aswel !'"
As I've said already it's one of the hardest things to defend against, name me a winger in SL who looks 100 % great under a high ball when defending, his strength is his pace and as has happened over the last 15 years when we have wingers with pace ( apart from Besty) they never have had the service, until we can play some decent expansive rugby you won't see the best of him.
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| Quote: Big Dave T "Currently his work rate and his desire to get involved and try and influence the game. (and do something inventive and different)
Also his kick chase and defensively he has made some really key plays too.'"
Sums it up for me. He's keen but never getting the service on the wing means he's had to start looking outside the box - and inside the field - pretty much as Raynor does really.
Would love to see what he'd be like (and Raynor) receiving from the likes of Gidley and wonder what our assessments would be then.
Briscoe in the centre mix with Whiting, Horne and Yeamo? And Hall when Motu's back?
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| Quote: Big Dave T "Raynor will be on the left wing with Calderwood on the right. Another Calderwood knocker then without really watching the game i guess?'"
I heard a rumour that this would not happen, as Agar is concerned that they'll run into each other. Can anyone shed any light on this?
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| Quote: Sexual Deviant "I heard a rumour that this would not happen, as Agar is concerned that they'll run into each other. Can anyone shed any light on this?'"
would only happen if we played with 2 balls. They will be a perfect foil!
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| Quote: WormInHand "Sums it up for me. He's keen but never getting the service on the wing means he's had to start looking outside the box - and inside the field - pretty much as Raynor does really.
Would love to see what he'd be like (and Raynor) receiving from the likes of Gidley and wonder what our assessments would be then.
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That's the point. To knock Calderwood after the start he's had to the season would require almost a complete lack of knowledge of the game. He's tried hard to get involved in attack with little or no service, and has defended really well. What more could he do?
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| Quote: Rock God X "That's the point. To knock Calderwood after the start he's had to the season would require almost a complete lack of knowledge of the game. He's tried hard to get involved in attack with little or no service, and has defended really well. What more could he do?'"
Exactly. Funny still though to hear people knocking him, as you say, clearly showing that they either have a total lack of knowledge or like too many beers when watching the game.
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| The sooner we get Raynor back the better as for the past few games I think Briscoe really hasn't done anything. Not that he and Calderwood get much to do with the ball, but compared to the effort been put in by Calderwood at the moment Briscoe seems invisable
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| Quote: The Key "The sooner we get Raynor back the better as for the past few games I think Briscoe really hasn't done anything. Not that he and Calderwood get much to do with the ball, but compared to the effort been put in by Calderwood at the moment Briscoe seems invisable'"
think thats a little harsh on briscoe tbh the metres he makes by scooting from dummy half in our own half is priceless - as has been said though; no winger will stand out without decent service given to them
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| in the games so far they have not really been wingers games...as the weather gets better they will get involved more but i think calderwood and briscoe have done alright so far just havent had a chance with ball in hand
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