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| Would crooksy be classed as a prop or second row ? If prop he'd be one of my choices , would need time to decide on the other , top of my head out of skerrett , omeley , stone , Harrison
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| Trev Skerrett is a shoe in for me one of the best props I have ever seen...............
Charlie stone, Vince Farrah and the 50s Mick Scott I never saw but the record speaks for itself
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| Harold Bowman from way back - 451 appearances between 1921 and 1935 putting him third in Hull's all time appearances list. In three season between 1925 and 1928 he made an astonishing 129 appearances. He scored 75 tries for the club including 16 in one season and twice toured down under with Great Britain. Harold was a local lad who never wanted to play for anyone else. He died at just 55 whilst watching his son Keith play for Hull in a Championship semi final at Boothferry Park.
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| A very strong position for Hull. Of those I've seen play Skerrett would be my favourite. Rock hard, heaps of energy and a hard (but fair) hitter. A truly outstanding defender, he stopped them in their tracks head on but also pulled off some cover tackles that would be outstanding for anyone, let alone a prop. He was a key man in the trophy winning era of the early 80s who usually featured in the man of the match voting in the big games. Unfortunately a serious knee injury wrecked his career and he never came back the same player but at his peak awesome and one of the few players to get the Aussies respect. Not far behind for me was Karl Harrison, another real hard man and a leader in the Brian Smith revival era. But there's plenty more just covering those I have seen, Charlie Stone, O'Meeley, Mick Harrison (though his best years were before my clear memories) were among the very best but there have been quite a few others that have got the odd representative honour which shows they were more than decent Farrar, Tindall, King for example. And that's without the famous 50's pack which was before my time but I'm sure the old timers will have fond memories of Scott and Jim Drake and maybe more. Finally going way back to the 20's there's a guy called Harold Bowman who went on 2 tours Down Under, represented GB and England and played over 450 games for Hull - that looks real quality and service.
For Lee Crooks I would count him as a 2nd row for Hull as that was where the majority of his very best performances for the club came from. Over his career he no doubt counts as a prop but his most of his best games in that position were for teams other than Hull.
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| Of those I've seen
Mick Scott
Jim Drake
Mick Harrison
Jim Macklin
Karl Harrison
Keith Tindall
Charlie Stone
Kelvin Skerrett
Paul King
were the best, assuming Keith Boxall and Lee Crooks are classed as second row forwards.
Mick Harrison (first spell) and Kelvin Skerrett the best of the best.
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| Kelvin Skerrett?
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| yes we'll go for lee crooks in the second row he played all his early stuff in that position including the 1982 and 83 cup finals. by 1985 he had switched to prop and played prop in the 85 final
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| My personnel favourites are Trevor Skerret and Mick Harrison but have fond memories of Andy Dannatt Tim Street Ogre among others
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| I would have to do for
Dannatt
Harrison
Part of a outstanding front row, under Smith.
Other props I liked are
King
O Meley
Street
Moa
Lynch
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| My dad's best until the 1950's power pack came along was Harold Bowman. He then ranked Mick Scott as his equal.
My best are two from that pack, Scott and Jim Drake plus Mick Harrison who is the best I have seen after those two.
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| Has to be Harold Bowman and Mick Scott by a distance.
Very unlucky for Trevor Skerrett, less so for other top props,
Charlie Stone, Vince Farrar, Keith Tindall, Andy Dannatt, Karl Harrison, Jim Macklin, Terry Kirchin, Paul King, Dave Brooks & Paul Rose.
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| Despite his antics as an individual in and aroud Red Hawk, I'd say Dannatt, and despite unsettling the dressing room I'd also say Harrison. Street was just a thug, hard as nails, no messing. King did some great things for FC and could have done so much more. Maybe once this thread is complete we can have a similar one for players who could have done more with their talent if it weren't for other distractions?
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| Bill Ramsey .
Terry Kirchin was a second rower slippery as an eel and as hard to stop his lay off because of it.
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| Quote: Uppo58 "Has to be Harold Bowman and Mick Scott by a distance.
Very unlucky for Trevor Skerrett, less so for other top props,
Charlie Stone, Vince Farrar, Keith Tindall, Andy Dannatt, Karl Harrison, Jim Macklin, Terry Kirchin, Paul King, Dave Brooks & Paul Rose.'"
This, Bowman and Scott for me too with a close third and fourth to Mick Harrison and Trevor Skerrett. Whilst Skerret was an outstanding player and great tackler for Trinity and his first couple of seasons at Hull, his style after his knees going to pot meant going forward he used to pull up with a funny step just before impact on being tackled almost every time reducing his effectiveness (IMO) and frankly he was done after the 82/83 season spending more than half the next 3 seasons on the injury list. Quality player and deservedly so, gave his all every time but for me not in the top two of Hull props.
Other Hull props of the past worthy of a mention are:
Frank Boylen; the first ever dual code international in RL playing for England RU in their first 4 matches of 1908 and after only 11 months and 30 games for Hull, at the ripe old age of 30 he was chosen for the Gt.Britain squad to tour down under becoming our first GB touring international (& also the first to be sent off in a tour match!!) Made just the one GB appearance in the first test, played also for England and Yorkshire.
Tom Herridge 1907-1921; one of the most imposing men & looks hard as nails in the photos and was. Signed from York RU he played an integral part of our early Challenge cup final teams including the 1914 success (4 CC finals and two losing Yorkshire cups). Made 375 appearances scoring 44 tries and would have made a hatful more were it not for WWI.
John 'johnno' Beasty, 1912/13- 1926/7.
Local lad, signed up to alleviate a schedule pile up and his first match was the Christmas day derby of 1912, ended up playing 283 games and considering 4 mssed years due to WWI would have being a member of the 400 club. Solid and dependable one
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| I think Harold Bowman should be a certainty. I'd agree with others regarding Mick Scott and Jim Drake. I'm also surprised that Mickey Paea's name hasn't been mentioned, although I can understand that as he has been with us for such a short time. Certainly a part of the team that has many worthy nominations.
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